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  • @p0ly 402367 wrote:

    The animals we eat are of the highest population species on the planet cos we breed them. if the meaning of life is reproduction then us eating meat is a win in a way. i think there is more chickens on the planet than humans cos of our love for their flesh.

    The way a lot of these animals are treated is immoral for sure though.

    also i agree with where Iacchus was going, veg is life to. Annoys me that murdering spiders is socially acceptable but to a dog or cat is seen as sick.

    who said the meaning of life is reproduction?

    i try not to kill spiders, unless they’re big and scary and its me or them!

    The meaning of everything is to replicate or make more of it’s self with slight variations … from cells/viruses to species even planets and stars follow the same process of continuing a cycle of creation.

    Self presivation and replication.

    @DaftFader 402371 wrote:

    The meaning of everything is to replicate or make more of it’s self with slight variations … from cells/viruses to species even planets and stars follow the same process of continuing a cycle of creation.

    Self presivation and replication.

    so you’ve both worked out the meaning of life then? thats pretty good! would have thought you’d both be in the papers with news like that! 😉

    just because things, animals, cells, virus’ reproduce does not mean that is the meaning of life

    what if the meaning of life is to increase understanding and knowledge of what life is about. and the constant reproducing is just a by product as new souls have to have a vessel to experience this life through. obviously not everything has a soul, but you cant really have one rule for one thing and one rule for another.

    the meaning of my life is not reproduction.

    just cos something is the mechanism of evolution doesnt make it the meaning of existence 😛

    I dont buy the whole ‘if it wasnt for us maintaining farm animals they wouldnt exist’ argument (nobody here has said it directly but ive heard it plenty of times), by the same argument you could have a human baby factory where we get women pregnant round the clock then we eat the babies. They wouldnt exist without us anyway, right?

    I also dont like it when people needlessly kill insects. All life is sacred, if you’re going to kill something make sure you have a good reason, being too lazy to do the cup and paper trick doesnt count. If u decide killing a cow to feed your family is a good reason then fair enough but never kill for pleasure. That’s why fox hunters can fuck right off.

    I didn’t say the meaning of life tho 😛

    The meaning of life is subjective to the life it’s self. 😉

    Nor did i it was just an interesting topic IMO, i said ‘if’.

    Foxes are murdering bastards, i understand you think it’s wrong to kill for pleasure but either way farmers shoot those Foxes dead everyday either way. i wouldn’t Fox hunt myself but it doesn’t bother me.

    @DaftFader 402384 wrote:

    I didn’t say the meaning of life tho 😛

    The meaning of life is subjective to the life it’s self. 😉

    ah, no you didnt sorry missread it.

    @poly ive got less issue with a farmer shooting a fox (much more humane than fox hunting) as that can sort of be nessessary. but i wouldnt be eating the fox afterwards.

    @p0ly 402388 wrote:

    Foxes are murdering bastards, i understand you think it’s wrong to kill for pleasure but either way farmers shoot those Foxes dead everyday either way. i wouldn’t Fox hunt myself but it doesn’t bother me.

    foxes are incapable of murder, they kill to feed their family. If you dont like a fox eating your chickens then get better fencing/housing for them. If there is a fox problem in your city then stop leaving rubbish on the street in bags that can be torn open

    Culling is the lazy answer to lifes problems, people cull foxes to protect their chickens cheaply, cull baders because they cant be arsed to treat the cattle for TB. Some guy near my house was poisoning all the squirrels because he didnt like them getting into his loft and could be bothered to close the holes. And so on.

    If you really believe killing foxes is the answer and can’t afford to protect your chickens any other way there are plenty of humane ways to do it that dont involve a grand day out with lots of tally ho and distress to the animal. Shooting is isnt anywhere near as barbaric so is a big improvement on fox hunts, however it is still unecessary in my opinion. If we stop providing foxes with easy food their population will manage itself.

    My friend owns Chickens and in the past a few times Foxes break into their pen and slaughter them all for pretty much nothing. I don’t really care for Foxes even if people see it as immoral.

    Thousands of hedgehogs are killed each year by foxes. Lots of these are females with babies in the nest. In very few cases the babies will be found and hand reared. The rest die of starvation. So, one dead mum means 5 or 6 dead hedgehogs in one go.

    I always used to tell people “Foxes are not a problem or danger to hedgehogs. A fox will take and kill a baby, a weak or an old hedgehog but an adult will curl up and be protected by its spines”. I was wrong. Sadly our experiences over the years have taught us differently.

    Foxes have learned how to grab hold of and maim or kill hedgehogs. What happens is:

    The fox pounces on a hedgehog which curls up on contact.
    The fox freezes and stays perfectly still about 2 foot away from the rear of the hedgehog.
    The hedgehog hearing nothing, thinks it is safe and slowly uncurls. As it puts its back legs out to run, the fox springs, grabs the hedgehog’s back legs with its long snout and bites.
    An adult hedgehog will curl up but the damage has already been done. In a split second the fox’s sharp strong teeth break and crush the bones or bite the leg off completely. The hedgehog will be left screaming and crippled to die in agony from its injuries.
    A small or weak hedgehog won’t be able to curl up quickly enough and the fox will bite and eviscerate the hedgehog (rip out its guts) as well.

    lions and langur monkeys, have also been known to commit infanticide-the killing of infants. In these cases infanticide has been linked to the arrival of a new alpha male in the group. Scientists surmise that by killing the infants in the group (who were fathered by some other male), the new alpha can bring their mothers into sexual receptivity faster and thus ensure a chance for reproductive success.

    Is this not immoral because they are instinctive and don’t have a thought pattern like us?

    Fox hunting became obsolete when firearms, traps and poison baits were invented. it is more an assertion of dominance by one group of humans over other species (hounds) and other humans (non land owners) by showing their control over the land.

    lions and monkeys are intelligent animals with similar thought patterns to humans.

    in some areas not too far from here wannabe human “alpha males” would kill step kids if it wasn’t for feds and social services keeping an eye on certain families, and indeed one bloke in the Mid Suffolk village I work in did just drop his step daughter on her head a few months ago. He was caught and imprisoned but there has to be regular CID patrols to stop the two families involved having major feuds about this…

    Hmm i was thinking about it but.. we evolved to have canines, might as well use them 🙂 but each to their own.

    @p0ly 402386 wrote:

    Nor did i it was just an interesting topic IMO, i said ‘if’.

    sry that was at process 😉

    so should we exterminate all hunting carnivores on the planet then because we consider them to be cunts? 😛

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