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  • do you eat meat or are you a veggie?

    been thinking really that i might not eat as much meat as i used too. not gonna call myself a vegetarian, but didnt eat any meat for a week last week. and ate a meat lasagne yesterday and didnt actually enjoy it that much and made me feel a bit shit after i ate it tbh.

    i reckon as humans we started off eating nuts and berries and stuff, then discovered how to cook things and preserve stuff, which enabled us to progress the human civilisation onwards from living in caves. but now we have reached a point where we dont really need to eat meat i think. Its also quite a negative thing eating dead things. you are what you eat etc.

    anyway whats people opinions.

    and yes my transition to total hippy is almost complete! 😉

    We started off eating fruit like forest primates but had to adapt to eat anything available when our natural habitat started to decline and the rainforests gave way to grassy plains. It was the key to our survival where other species would have perished as their environment changed.
    The changes drove our evolution as better intelligence was necessary to deal with learning to scrounge for food in environments not abundant with fruit, we to some extent owe our amazingly developmed minds and society to the fact we had to learn to hunt and categorise animals/plants

    But quite, there is no reason why we need to eat meat anymore what with modern agriculture. Also it wont be sustainable in the future if the population continues to grow as eating meat is 10% as efficient as eating vegetables grown on the same land, we will only be able to justify eating animals that only grow on hilly areas not suitable for crops, eg sheep farming in mountainous areas.

    Personally, I LOVE meat and have no moral qualms about eating it. Yet. However I think for the sake of environmentalism and my waistline I may go veggie one day. Also my Hare Krisna friends dont approve much and like you I am getting more and more hippy in my old age ;P

    @Iacchus 402337 wrote:

    We started off eating fruit like forest primates but had to adapt to eat anything available when our natural habitat started to decline and the rainforests gave way to grassy plains. It was the key to our survival where other species would have perished as their environment changed.
    The changes drove our evolution as better intelligence was necessary to deal with learning to scrounge for food in environments not abundant with fruit, we to some extent owe our amazingly developmed minds and society to the fact we had to learn to hunt and categorise animals/plants

    But quite, there is no reason why we need to eat meat anymore what with modern agriculture. Also it wont be sustainable in the future if the population continues to grow as eating meat is 10% as efficient as eating vegetables grown on the same land, we will only be able to justify eating animals that only grow on hilly areas not suitable for crops, eg sheep farming in mountainous areas.

    ^what i was trying to say, but better put… :love:

    ps did you know that if we found a medicine to prolong our life we’d have to be veggie anyway? Apparently there are too many heavy metals in meat and it slowly damages you over your life. It doesnt really ‘get you’ before old age but if we could live indefinitely we’d have to be veggie pretty much

    @Iacchus 402341 wrote:

    ps did you know that if we found a medicine to prolong our life we’d have to be veggie anyway? Apparently there are too many heavy metals in meat and it slowly damages you over your life. It doesnt really ‘get you’ before old age but if we could live indefinitely we’d have to be veggie pretty much

    no way! you got any links to info about that? when you say heavy metals? what do you mean?

    It’s something I read somewhere but I cant remember for the life of me where. I think it’s namely with red meats, they are very high in iron and stuff and they can build up or something.

    A quick google search provides some information on the subject, albeit from an obvious veggie promoter

    The real reason why processed meats are so dangerous to your health

    Bioaccumulation is cited here as the issue, ie a cow eats tons and tons of vegetable matter, all the nasties he eats builds up in his flesh.

    This isnt just veggie paranoia it’s well studied in nature, take for example a bug that eats pesticide covered crops. A rodent eats hundreds of these bugs as part of its diet. A bird of prey eats hundreds of these rodents as part of its diet. The result is the bird of prey has tens of thousands of times the concentration of the pesticide in it’s system than the bug did.
    Bioaccumulation – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    As top of the food chain we need to be aware of this shizzle

    yeah, nice one for that, goona have a read now. 🙂

    Meat and 2 veg plz! :love:

    :laugh_at:

    I am what is called a pescetarian – I eat fish but dont like meat (texture / taste) (and not too keen on ‘meaty’ fish) love me fresh veg and fruit etc,
    dont eat much processed food – mainly as I dont like it and its cheaper to make my own food from scratch,

    couldnt live without cheese or pizza though.

    havent eaten animal meat for 22+years now.

    Pescetarianism – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    @Tank Girl 402356 wrote:

    I am what is called a pescetarian – I eat fish but dont like meat (texture / taste) (and not too keen on ‘meaty’ fish) love me fresh veg and fruit etc,
    dont eat much processed food – mainly as I dont like it and its cheaper to make my own food from scratch,

    couldnt live without cheese or pizza though.

    havent eaten animal meat for 22+years now.

    Pescetarianism – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    i love seafood, but not eaten any of that in a while either. im not gonna label myself as any one thing, but am starting to think that eating dead things isnt the way forward.

    also would have thought that the whole bio accumulation thing could be a lot worse in seafood, seeing as stuff like chemicals and pesticides etc all pretty much get washed down into the sea in one way or another..

    but for me its basically the killing of other things in order to survive that has started to seem a bit wrong…

    The question is, where do you draw the line? Vegetables are dead things too. Must it have had a brain? Or any form of central nervous system? What about insects? Some neurophysists think that anything below a lizard isnt really conscious at all so you’d be fine eating prawns etc.

    However some philosophers think conscious reactions goes all the way down to the simplest life form reacting in the simplest way. Although a good rule would be the less complex the life form, the safer you are eating it.

    @process 402360 wrote:

    i love seafood, but not eaten any of that in a while either. im not gonna label myself as any one thing, but am starting to think that eating dead things isnt the way forward.

    also would have thought that the whole bio accumulation thing could be a lot worse in seafood, seeing as stuff like chemicals and pesticides etc all pretty much get washed down into the sea in one way or another..

    but for me its basically the killing of other things in order to survive that has started to seem a bit wrong…

    I think if I look into it too much I’d have to become vegan – as the milk trade is horrific to the animals, etc
    I mainly dont eat meat as I dont like it – if I was to ever try meat again I’d only eat ‘happy meat’ and as this is expensive I guess it’d be a rare occasion

    but I like fish- and i think if I didnt eat fish I’d not get enough of whatever (I take vitamins and minerals etc ) but I dont have fish too often, one as I cant afford it regular regular, but i also heard there can be lots of metals in it –
    my sister (who reads hello :laugh_at:) was telling me about Rod stewarts wife who ate loads of fish and “Miss Lancaster, 39, said she had cut fish out of her diet after doctors discovered very high levels of mercury in her body. She then became pregnant on her third round of IVF.”

    @Iacchus 402361 wrote:

    The question is, where do you draw the line? Vegetables are dead things too. Must it have had a brain? Or any form of central nervous system? What about insects? Some neurophysists think that anything below a lizard isnt really conscious at all so you’d be fine eating prawns etc.

    However some philosophers think conscious reactions goes all the way down to the simplest life form reacting in the simplest way. Although a good rule would be the less complex the life form, the safer you are eating it.

    personally i wouldnt see vegtables or fruit as dead. they take quite a while to die i reckon. once its started to decompose/rot id class it as dead. pretty much like you can pick a flower, but its not instantly dead, it carries on growing and living until the lack of food, water etc makes it die off.

    its not even completely the conciousness thing that is putting me off, but more the eating dead things. so yeah same goes for prawns and insects i guess.

    @TG thats mad about your mate! and yeah i was recently eductaed about the milk trade and about how harsh it is. im trying to cut down the amount of dairy as well, more for health reasons more than anything else though…

    The animals we eat are of the highest population species on the planet cos we breed them. if the meaning of life is reproduction then us eating meat is a win in a way. i think there is more chickens on the planet than humans cos of our love for their flesh.

    The way a lot of these animals are treated is immoral for sure though.

    also i agree with where Iacchus was going, veg is life to. Annoys me that murdering spiders is socially acceptable but to a dog or cat is seen as sick.

    Well, there are about 6 billion people and because about 8 billion chickens are slaughtered each year, there are more chickens. The answer changed constantly about how many chickens there are, but there are generally about 10 billion of them!

    … Mass chicken slaughter.

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