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  • Saw these pictures online; at first I thought it was some joke sticker but apparently its a real warning from the Mexican Health Ministry!

    here in England I can’t afford to smoke these myself (£10 a pack now from many shops) let alone share them with rodents :laugh_at:

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    All the latin american and caribbean countries have either a ridiculous warning label like that or literally the label is saying in giant text that it will kill you.

    I think everywhere in the world other than USA, Russia, Japan and South Korea are implementing them -we have similar labels in the UK and Europe, and they are going to get even bigger; but its the first time I’ve seen a non human creature featured on them!

    A lot of traditional British brands from JTI and ITL are currently being sold in limited edition packs with extra designs as its the last year before we must have plain packaging, and they are shutting down the remaining two UK cigarette factories soon anyway (as much of their business were 10 packs that are now banned).

    I am considering getting a cigarette case from mainland Europe (the French and Germans still make decent ones) – this would also stop me being tutted at by the matron for being spotted at work with a visible pack of cigs in my pocket, as you would expect this is discouraged in a modern healthcare environment (it is not the 1980s any more :laugh_at:)

    That sounds like a wise investment. Doctors don’t smoke anymore, probably the rest of the staff shouldn’t either or at least should hide it better.

    On a sidenote some of the places in the Caribbean have virtually no tax. I had a buddy that was from an island territory and he’d come back from school break’s with a dufflebag full of cigs because they were quite a bit cheaper and I don’t even live in a state with much of a tax on them.

    Staff who smoke have to go to various designated areas in far away corners of the buildings (this is now common practice in all European countries irrespective of EU membership) – I am lucky enough not to have to work strictly designated shifts nor have to wear any kind of uniform (which does at least contain convenient and discreet pockets) but can equally end up on any of 4 different rural sites at any random hour, in any corner of the building.

    Which is why I tend to carryi the cigs and lighter with me; the upstairs offices or the comms room where I might start work are located the other side the building from the smoking areas (for understandable fire safety/security reasons) so I’d have to make a double journey to fetch them…

    as for taxes, I guess its linked to the same political system that allows cannabis to be legal in some states but I was surprised to learn the tax on tobacco varies across the USA to the point it vexes American pipe smokers; who enjoy European blends but sometimes find them hard to obtain as shops in Europe won’t ship it due to Customs hassles.

    AFAIK no other country in the world has different tax régimes for the same commodity inside its borders. – does this happen with other groceries, and stuff like computers or only because its a controversial commodity?

    In mainland Europe the exact tax amount on tobacco is shown on govt websites and often on tax stamps affixed the packs themselves. Especially in German speaking countries there appears to be some sort of government mandated price fixing whereby all brands cost around the same price (max €1 difference).

    As well as tax, tobacco companies appear to be strongly encouraged (if not actually compelled by law) to contribute something else healthier to the local community as well; creating paradoxes such as the main tourist information surveys and guides of Germany being (discreetly) sponsored by BAT. They are however still allowed to put up billboard adverts in Germany which is banned just about everywhere else including its neighbours.

    To address pipe tobacco… It is hard to find good pipe tobacco in America, one headshop has a great variety near where I live and they also have a good selection of rolling tobacco but they’re the exception as kids now smoke marijuana at a higher rate than tobacco so all the headshops are going towards that market and quickstops and gas stations only carry roll your owns and packs.

    It is pretty much the only commodity with different tax schemes aside from gasoline, some states regulate bars and alcohol differently but the base price for a bottle of vodka doesn’t vary by state although the sales tax is different from state to state however this is true for all items. For example New York has a vary high sales tax and Alaska has no sales tax so a big purchase in Alaska would be cheaper, but since Alaska is like 1500 miles from the rest of the country it would cost more to even get a large item back to the lower 48 states compared to paying the sales tax elsewhere so this is only valuable knowledge if you’re traveling to Alaska anyways and are buying something small and expensive like a watch, but again since Alaska is the backwoods the selection for high end boutique items is minimal.

    Also as far as sales tax goes, you’re only obligated to pay it for online purchases if the seller has a physical store presence in your state.

    Other items with different taxes are other ‘sin’ taxes such as junk food and soda being super expensive relatively speaking in New York City. I’m not sure if this has caught on for alcohol but it might have, but this practice with junk food and soda is not widespread at all and is limited to New York and possibly a few other cities on the East Coast, as far as alcohol I can’t think of somewhere that taxes it differently but a google search would clear that up.

    Gasoline is another one with different taxes, the price might vary by almost $0.50 if you are located near state boarders and one state taxes it heavily and the other doesn’t, this is on top of the federal tax.

    Big Tobacco had to pay out a ton of money for wellness programs and settlements about 20 years ago but can still advertise, but not on TV, roughly equivalent to what happens in Europe.

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