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  • American ravers are hardly the only group your governement’s has chosen to harass at the moment. Has it never occured to you folks to stand up for your rights?

    Come off it Dr Bunsen, the americans are as much victims of their government and scared middle classes as we are. if you look at the states which voted Kerry, it was all the cool uni citys on either coast. those guys know where its at. the folks who got bush in were all the imbreds from south dakota and texas. same way that the middle englanders kept maggie in for so damn long.

    Plus, the american media is a joke. it has totally been consumed by private monopoloy, no matter how bland our tvs may seem, they literally all have the same news, from the same angle. no bbc/channel4 differences, so the people are even less well represented. I feel sorry for them man. i mean, this counrty is bad, but we got proper state education, actual free health care, our benefit system shits ontheirs. unfortunately these few bonuses of england are being destroyed bythe bastards I voted in (for the first and last time).

    instead of getting all pissed at our US brothers, we should be trying to learn from them to how stop our counrty turning out like theirs, which it increasingly is.

    I still cant beleive that sick little monkey is still in power, though. Cray-zee.

    I’ve read a lot of US-based message boards and rave sites linked fro here – and was also very active on network23, which had a lot of Americans on there. The impression I get is the scene’s a lot different there in many states; “ravers” are more like commercial clubbers and don’t often get involved with “politics” either

    With the stakes raised so high by the harsher laws, most raves appear to be put on on a more commercial basis in a similar way to large nightclubs and free or “outlaw” parties are comparatively rare (or if they do happen our friends across the pond are too frightened to talk about them much!)

    I think what Dr Bunsen means is that there isn’t as much a crossover between ravers and other forms of progressive activists in the USA as there is in the UK; and ravers there should build more bridges with other groups as we have (to an extent) done here! However our scene was fairly apolitical until the CJA appeared.

    I agree though we need to learn from each other; I can also see the same problems cropping up here as in the USA if we are not careful.

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.







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