Salvia and Zhuan Falun
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February 11, 2015 at 8:01 am #684486
I had posted this at Entheogen Network but thought you guys might also find this of interest:
I have only used Salvia a handful of times ( DMT was something I was a little more focused on ) and only a 5x extract.
I would always get a strange puzzle/circus vibe with odd sensations pulling my body forward and also a sense of time rewinding.
My friend who imbibed the extract seemed to have gone further laughing hysterically saying he was on a roller coaster in a forest.
So my experience with this substance is rather limited however I have read many many trip reports and I find the whole thing fascinating to say the least.
I feel this substance is somehow pulling back a portion of the curtain to show you the backstage props of reality. Now although my personal experience with this substance is very limited I have come across a fascinating book that seems to talk about many of the things salvianauts encounter in there journeys.
This book is called Zhuan Falun and it is from the Buddha Law School of Cultivation however it is not Buddhism the religion or Daoism the religion, it’s something more profound.It seems to me to be more of a spiritual science as many of the terms and concepts in the book are talked about in a scientific down to earth manner instead of flowery mystical prose which I found very refreshing.
Now here is where it gets interesting, this book talks about the following things:
Other Dimensions – Levels Of Dimensions spanning into the microcosm and also outwards into the macrocosm
The Soul – It talks about people having a Master soul and a subordinate soul which is hidden from you but is at a more advanced level then you, it states some people have more then one Subordinate soul and some are of not of the same sex as you i.e males having a female subordinate soul etc.
Microcosmic worlds – This concept was very far out but it talks about there being worlds within you, countless worlds. Similiar to our world with life , water, animals etc. An analogy is zooming an an atom within one of your cells and realizing at that level of magnification it is just like our solar system.
Then zooming into a single particle in that world and finding out it too is a vast world, apparently the level it can go onwards like this is beyond imagination.
Supernatural Abilities – In the book they mention that everyone has them it is just that they have atrophied. It goes into depth about this topic. Some abilites that are mentioned are precognition, retrocognition and remote vision.
The 3rd Eye – Talks about how at the front part of our pineal gland there is a complete structure of an eye there. Modern science calls it a vestigial eye but in the cultivation world they say this eye just naturally exists like that and it can be activated allowing one to pierce through this dimension and see other dimensions.
It talks about how there are many levels to this 3rd eye and it goes into great depth about it. Thoughts – This part was amazing. It talks about how a human brain is just a processing plant. How the real you is actually your soul, it’s like your whole body and brain is just a vehicle and that the true commands are issued by your master soul, but this master soul is very tiny and it can switch positions while inside you and it can also expand and shrink.
It can move from your brain to your heart and to other parts of your body and it is ‘he’ who calls the shots. Your brain is just the factory which your master soul sends his cosmic commands to which then create the forms of expression and communication
we use such as speech, gestures, etc.
These are just a few things that are covered but there are many many other things which blew my mind when I read it because of how it resonated with some of the saliva experiences I have read, especially the multidimensional nature of reality and how all of them are hidden in our day to day perceptions of the world.
If this sounds interesting to anyone you can grab a copy of the book here:
Falun Dafa | Falun Gong | ???? | ??? – FalunDafa.org ( this is site to the actual practice where you can download the cultivation exercises etc )
Also some people talk about how our reality is really like a ‘3D painting’. Sort of like it is 3d in our day to day perceptions but from a higher dimension it’s almost like we are on a sheet/brane or whatever you wanna call it.
This is fascinating because Buddha GrandMaster Li Hongzhi ( the person who wrote Zhuan Falun ) talked about this very same thing in one of his lectures. Check it out and let me know if this stirs anyone’s connection with Salvia space:
“What kind of dimensional form does our human race live in? I am telling everyone that this dimensional layer where mankind lives is between two kinds of particles. As for particles, those of us who have studied physics know that molecules, atoms, nuclei, quarks, and neutrinos are each a layer of particles. They are physical elements that constitute larger particles.
Which layer of particles does mankind exist in? The largest things that we see with human eyes are planets, and the smallest things that we can see under the microscope are molecules.In fact, our mankind just exists in this dimensional layer between the planets and the molecules. We may find it very vast, very extensive, and incomparably big.
I say that modern science is not advanced. No matter how far a spacecraft can fly, it cannot fly beyond this physical dimension of ours. However developed a computer is, it cannot match the human brain.Now the human brain is still a mystery. Therefore, the science of mankind is still very shallow. Try to imagine it, everyone. Our human race lives in between these two kinds of particles of planets and molecules.
Molecules are made up of atoms, then what is the dimension between atoms and molecules like? Modern scientists can only understand an atom as a point, one of its small structures.In fact, the place where atoms exist is also a plane, and the physical dimension formed by such a plane is also quite huge. It is only that what you have discovered is a point. Within this plane then, how big is this dimension?
Our standard for measuring distances is always based upon the perspective of mankind’s own modern science to judge everything. You must jump out of
the framework and the concepts of empirical science. In order for you to enter that dimension, you must comply with the forms of that dimension, and only then can you enter it.
The distance from an atom to a molecule, as science understands it, is approximately two million atoms lined up, and only then can an atom reach a molecule. That is to say that this distance that it can understand is already quite vast. You cannot understand it from the standpoint of this present empirical scientific model of mankind. Then, please try to think about it for a moment.
Isn’t it a dimensional layer in between from an atom to its nuclei? How great then is the dimensional distance between the nuclei and a quark? What about between a quark and a neutrino? Of course, the current science of mankind can only understand as far as neutrinos.
Man cannot see them except for detecting them with apparatus to know their mode of existence. In fact, it is not known how far away they are from the original source of matter! What I am talking about is the simplest form of dimensional existence.
All physical substances of our mankind, including all substances that you cannot see in the air as well as those substances that we can see such as iron, cement, animals, plants, matter, and the human body, are composed of molecules. Mankind just exists on this plane of molecules, just like a 3-D painting. You live on this plane and you cannot escape it. Mankind’s science is also limited within this one dimension which it cannot even break through.
Yet, people still claim how developed science is and disregard all other theories. Mankind’s technology cannot reach a higher understanding of the universe. If it were really able to break through this dimensional layer, it would see the mode of existence of life and the mode of existence of matter in other dimensions, as well as the structures in them made by time and space.
However, our practitioners can see it. Only Buddhas are the greatest scientists.When I talked about opening Tianmu (the third eye), I mentioned this issue. One can avoid using eyes to see things and look through this Tianmu of ours, namely between the two eyebrows, or from the Shangen as the Taoist School calls it. At the root of your nose, a passageway is opened directly to your Pineal Body.
It is called the Pineal Body in medical science. Practitioners in the Taoist School call it the Niwan Palace, which refers to the same thing. However, in the front part of this Pineal Body, medical scientists have already found it equipped with all the component structures of a human eye. Modern medical scientists find it very strange. Why is there an eye inside? They consider it a vestigial eye, and they still explain these things with the theory of evolution.
In fact, it just exists this way, and it is not at all degenerated. When one avoids the flesh eyes, of course, when these flesh eyes have been cultivated, the flesh eyes can also penetrate and also have this kind of supernormal capability. The Buddha Fa is boundless. Generally, when one avoids the eyes, avoids the eyes that are made up of molecules to look, one will be able to penetrate this dimension and see scenes in other dimensions. It is just such a principle. Therefore, practitioners can see things that ordinary people cannot see.
Of course, some ordinary people occasionally have vaguely seen some unexplainable phenomena in their lifetimes. For instance, they may have seen a person pass before their eyes and disappear instantly, or they may have seen something or heard some sounds. That is probably the situation whereby they have actually vaguely
seen or heard something in another dimension.
Because one’s Tianmu is not sealed too tightly or his ears are not sealed too tightly, every once in a while he is able to hear the sounds of other dimensions or see some phenomena of other dimensions.I’ve just spoken of this dimension in which mankind lives. Actually, this planet that our human race inhabits is neither the largest particle nor the largest substance.
Beyond the planets there are still larger substances! Therefore, Buddha Sakyamuni’s eyes could already see quite microscopic matter in the extremely microscopic
microcosm and could see quite enormous, macro matter in the macrocosm. However, at the end Buddha Sakyamuni could not see how big this universe ultimately is. Therefore, he made a statement, “It is big enough without exterior, and it is small enough without interior.” How huge this universe is! Please think about how complex it is. It is unlike what mankind knows.
Even for this dimension of ours, this form, it is quite complex! Besides this dimensional form, there is also a dimensional form that exists vertically, and within this vertical dimension there are also many unitary paradises. It is very complex. The unitary worlds that I am talking about refer to paradises, etc.
Each dimension has different time-spaces. Do you think that the time in the dimension composed of atoms, can be the same as that in our dimension over here, which is made up of molecules?
Its concept of space and its distance is also different from ours, and everything becomes different. Why do the extraterrestrial UFOs come and go from nowhere and fly so fast? They are traveling in other dimensions; it is just so simple. If man tries to understand the unexplained phenomena in the universe from his own current scientific perspective or uses this method to study cultivation practice or religions, he will never get it in his research. He has to change his way of thinking, and he must understand it from another perspective.
In the history of man, science is not only today’s so-called empirical science that was discovered or invented by the Europeans. This is not the only path; there are other paths as well. For those ancient civilizations that have been discovered on earth and once existed in history, their courses of development all took different paths in understanding life, matter, and the universe.
The ancient science of China also took another path. The Chinese culture, although the levels it involved were very high, yet because the people’s morality was no longer good, it had also been suppressed. Therefore, it was not passed down, and this lowest form of science from the West was left to man instead.
Thus, it is rather inadequate.”
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