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  • Are you selling or buying?

    If you’re selling, £2000+ does seem a bit optimistic to me. Unfortunately, demand for big analogue desks (with their heavy power supplies, cumbersome snakes and racks of outboard gear) has seriously gone down over the last few years, and they don’t sell for much nowadays. GL4000s are old hat now and you should count yourself lucky if you get a grand for it tbh. If it’s in good nick and you have the case and redundant power supply then that will add some value, but given that LMC currently have a second-hand one on offer for £600 ex VAT, I wouldn’t expect too much.

    Ah dam, I first thought it would go for just under a grand, then I found a place selling loads of them at 2-3G .. one even at £5000 …. so yeah, did get a bit overoptimistic. xD

    I need to check everything’s working (I’m selling it btw). It came from a bank’s media suite they shut it down so donated a fuck ton of equipment to the place I work (A charity that does all kinds of music and video related stuff, as well as other activities for under privileged kids).

    I’m gonna be selling a shed ton of Equip over the coming months, Do you mind If I run some prices etc. passed you just to make sure I’m not ripping my self off, or anyone else. (also you might be interested, or your boss might, in some of it).

    We have 2 Peavey media matrix nion n6’s (they go for £1000 – to £1500 right?)

    Yeh, give it a thorough test before you put it up for sale – there’s a reason why they get called ‘Allen and Grief’. I’ve had problems with the mute groups going haywire before, with mutes randomly switching themselves on and off. You should be able to check pretty much every function using a microphone and small powered speaker. If it’s spent its life in a bank then it should be in pretty good nick, and free of the fag ash, mud, mouse nests and other random crud that tends to end up in hire stock.

    I’ve not come across those Peavey units before, so don’t really know the answer to that, but second-hand audio resellers are a good place to get guide prices from, as they’re generally savvy enough to ask for the right amount. Try LMC or Usedful .

    But yeah, I’d be interested to hear about anything you have for sale. I don’t have a boss, but I might know a few people who’d be interested depending what’s on offer.

    Ah ok, I meant your friend who you freelance for sometimes … ( but that was a long time ago, so maybe your situation has changed now).

    ^^ yeah cool man, I will make sure to let you know first about anything I’m selling as I owe you a favor. 😉

    Yeh, I’ve not had much work from him in a while tbh. I’m currently in Dubai as tech manager for this show…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfelf-kJgo

    Pretty mental thing to be involved with!

    Nice man, that looks well interesting! A dam sight more fun then sitting in some drull conference room all day listening to people blab on about their quota of oil drilling being up, and how to legally buck the system by giving anything over your quota to another one of the corporation’s subsidiary companies. (yep, that’s exactly what they were talking about in that conference I did for him!)

    Yeh that sounds about right. I tend to zone out on those kind of jobs, and just keep one ear open for things like ‘in conclusion…’, ‘any questions…’ and other stuff that requires me to actually press a button or move a fader.

    @cheeseweasel 701843 wrote:

    If you’re selling, £2000+ does seem a bit optimistic to me. Unfortunately, demand for big analogue desks (with their heavy power supplies, cumbersome snakes and racks of outboard gear) has seriously gone down over the last few years, and they don’t sell for much nowadays.

    analogue desks remain popular with smaller community broadcasters but even they lack the staff or expertise to maintain a decent one. and a production / FOH mixer usually lacks the control circuits broadcasters want (such as speaker mute when mics are up; remote starts, telephone hybrids etc); the cheaper production mixers are ending up in a lot of smaller stations simply due to the skills shortage (its not rocket science to get an old (1980s) era broadcast desk working well; but it seems few folk below age 40 know how to use a soldering iron, multimeter and scope these days (apart from maybe some Dutch and German youth; who end up with EELA and D&R desks in their bedrooms for a few hundred euros (these things cost as much as a small VW or Audi when new) – broadcast desks do have less channels and look bulky but make sense when you think how they are used.

    As for strange things ending up in well used desks I’ve got this video titled “er rammelde iets in onze mengtafel” (“there was something rattling in our mixer”) where the engineer or a Dutch community broadcaster removes one of those “lucky bug” type things that a nervous presenter had somehow knocked into the inside of the desk (presumably when they were operating it with missing blanking plates). One thing you do notice on second hand radio desks is a notch in the faders for headphones and LS monitor output where years of nervous presenters with shaking hands have been holding onto the controls too strongly and worn away the tracks.

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    @DaftFader 701850 wrote:

    We have 2 Peavey media matrix nion n6’s (they go for £1000 – to £1500 right?)

    I had to look up exactly what it was (a lot more than I’d expected it to do given the description) and that seems like a fair price but it looks like it needs a lot of extra outboard kit to be any use (i.e to connect it to any standard analogue or AES/EBU audio equipment) which is why its s/h price may be relatively low…

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    @General Lighting 701904 wrote:

    I had to look up exactly what it was (a lot more than I’d expected it to do given the description) and that seems like a fair price but it looks like it needs a lot of extra outboard kit to be any use (i.e to connect it to any standard analogue or AES/EBU audio equipment) which is why its s/h price may be relatively low…

    We’ve probably got all the bits to go with it somewhere … we’ve got an entire banks media center that’s been donated to us. There’s tens of thousands of pounds worth of gear there. I’ll be fucked if I ever manage to figure out what it all does this side of Christmas, so I’m just going on rough prices I can find when diging about online as to what to sell it all at, I’m running it past a few people first, like you fine selves here, before hand just to make sure I’m in the right ball park, but there’s things like 8 way split monitor switchboards for recording TV (I assume they use them for making adverts or something, or mby they ripped them out of their security monitoring room, fuck knows lol).

    @cheeseweasel 701866 wrote:

    Yeh, I’ve not had much work from him in a while tbh. I’m currently in Dubai as tech manager for this show…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfelf-kJgo

    Pretty mental thing to be involved with!

    Do they let you have a go of the chain-mail suits and stuff?

    @DaftFader 701920 wrote:

    We’ve probably got all the bits to go with it somewhere … we’ve got an entire banks media center that’s been donated to us. There’s tens of thousands of pounds worth of gear there. I’ll be fucked if I ever manage to figure out what it all does this side of Christmas, so I’m just going on rough prices I can find when diging about online as to what to sell it all at, I’m running it past a few people first, like you fine selves here, before hand just to make sure I’m in the right ball park, but there’s things like 8 way split monitor switchboards for recording TV (I assume they use them for making adverts or something, or mby they ripped them out of their security monitoring room, fuck knows lol).

    a bank today would be more likely to upgrade its security systems and sacrifice something like the media centre; most CCTV is still analogue as todays CCTV cameras are as good as broadcast cameras of 15 years ago (I look after a few CCTV systems for work).

    this media centre is or was a common fixture in many large corporate offices and it would indeed be used for monitoring TV news and recording it as well as making videos which got handed out free to TV stations to fill up airtime. It probably got set up in the mid 2000s before the economic crash when the banks and other corporates thought they could directly “own the media”

    Except there isn’t much demand for non impartial programmes about banks; and such programmes really aren’t going to be very interesting; someone has had the sense to realise that by donating the equipment to your community project they can write off the failed project as a tax loss and gain more positive spin than making programmes no one is going to watch or trust (and they can get their employees or “deniable contractors” to spy on the internet from home or buy info from BBC Caversham like everyone else does).

    A lot of this kit is just after the time I finished in broadcast engineering but it is essentially the same stuff I worked with crammed into smaller boxes and sold at a price point which was more amenable to non-creative industries who wanted to dabble in spin doctoring than the premium charged for “pro/broadcast” equipment; which TBH really isn’t much different from “consumer” stuff nowadays if there is any difference left at all. So feel free to post up any info on what it is (or send it to me via PM) if you are unsure or want it identified; I used to work on all sorts of obscure things (some of which appear to be still in use today by some TV channels).

    Some of this equipment may be worth keeping and using for this youth media centre depending on how much space you have (I know this can be a problem as I had to help shift a entire community radio station in a week at the end of 2012 and they may well move again in the next few years).

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    @cheeseweasel 701866 wrote:

    Yeh, I’ve not had much work from him in a while tbh. I’m currently in Dubai as tech manager for this show…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMfelf-kJgo

    Pretty mental thing to be involved with!

    Although I think that particular video is in Henley rather than Dubai 😉 (for a great deal of my life I lived not too far from Henley(on thames) in the north of Reading)

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    @General Lighting 701922 wrote:

    a bank today would be more likely to upgrade its security systems and sacrifice something like the media centre; most CCTV is still analogue as todays CCTV cameras are as good as broadcast cameras of 15 years ago (I look after a few CCTV systems for work).

    this media centre is or was a common fixture in many large corporate offices and it would indeed be used for monitoring TV news and recording it as well as making videos which got handed out free to TV stations to fill up airtime. It probably got set up in the mid 2000s before the economic crash when the banks and other corporates thought they could directly “own the media”

    Except there isn’t much demand for non impartial programmes about banks; and such programmes really aren’t going to be very interesting; someone has had the sense to realise that by donating the equipment to your community project they can write off the failed project as a tax loss and gain more positive spin than making programmes no one is going to watch or trust (and they can get their employees or “deniable contractors” to spy on the internet from home or buy info from BBC Caversham like everyone else does).

    A lot of this kit is just after the time I finished in broadcast engineering but it is essentially the same stuff I worked with crammed into smaller boxes and sold at a price point which was more amenable to non-creative industries who wanted to dabble in spin doctoring than the premium charged for “pro/broadcast” equipment; which TBH really isn’t much different from “consumer” stuff nowadays if there is any difference left at all. So feel free to post up any info on what it is (or send it to me via PM) if you are unsure or want it identified; I used to work on all sorts of obscure things (some of which appear to be still in use today by some TV channels).

    Some of this equipment may be worth keeping and using for this youth media centre depending on how much space you have (I know this can be a problem as I had to help shift a entire community radio station in a week at the end of 2012 and they may well move again in the next few years).

    I’ve already set up one PA system for them, and we are keeping hold of a load of cameras and the like for amateur film production stuff to do with the kids, but there’s way more stuff then we need, this is what we are selling off, in order to buy more appropriate things that we actually need.

    Ta for the offer of helping me work out what some of it is, I’ll be sure to take you up on that offer!

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