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  • Is this a good thing or not ?

    Designed to force people in over-occupied properties to downsize and make those properties available for larger families, reduce housing benefits and reduce the number of people who breed just to get social housing, in theory sounds fair…………… BUT

    Old people may be forced to leave homes they have lived in for decades with all their memories

    Children may be forced to share bedrooms, even mixed sex when young

    Any thoughts / opinions ?

    I think it’s a bit snide mate. The government have suddenly realised that there aren’t enough homes out there for everyone (despite fuck knows how many being boarded up in various parts of the country) and now want to introduce a fait-a-complis system to try and do something about it, so that they can then say ‘vote for us, we got u a bigger house’. Bet they won’t fucking downsize their own houses though, piss taking pricks!

    It is yet another prop to house prices and enforcement of the status quo.

    Fact is, there are enough properties to house people, but if people don’t need to borrow stupid amounts of money just for somewhere to live, the banksters are out of a job.

    Literal meaning “Mortgage” = “Death Grip”.

    @MC G-Tek 502763 wrote:

    I think it’s a bit snide mate. The government have suddenly realised that there aren’t enough homes out there for everyone (despite fuck knows how many being boarded up in various parts of the country) and now want to introduce a fait-a-complis system to try and do something about it, so that they can then say ‘vote for us, we got u a bigger house’. Bet they won’t fucking downsize their own houses though, piss taking pricks!

    Won’t downsize their second home you mean. Seriously novel yes but who the fuck actually requires a moat!?!?!?

    @Mezz 502760 wrote:

    Children may be forced to share bedrooms, even mixed sex when young

    I personally wouldn’t mind having young mixed sex children in my room. Oh wait did I type that out loud

    I think this is such a difficult area to have a black or white – yes no opinion,
    as you say in theory it sounds fair
    I do not think it is fair that my neighbor has a 3 bedroom (2 double bedrooms and one single) council house when there is her and one young daughter, when it would be much more benefiting to a larger family…

    but I think the ‘real’ ammount of people who ‘have’ children as a lifesyle to get a flat and benefits is much much less then the tories would have us believe and is printed in the daily mail!! So I really wonder how much benefit it actually will have in the long run

    and many working families have to have their same sex little uns share bedrooms, many members of my family have had to do the same til the legal age where they are no longer able to or before – this is a fact of life – we cant always afford ‘big enough’ houses,
    and stuff happens to everyone on benefits or not despite however well meaning or whatever planning – a friend of mine who lives in the north in a 2 up 2 down house (works full time nhs) planned to have a 2nd child and is now expecting twins – just one of those things – this means they will now have to move house as theirs wont be big enough at all, the government cant say this only happens to hard working brits…. the black and white view doesnt take things like this into consideration……

    At least in my area the real reason for larger families in social housing or even rented/owned housing is because peoples first “child bearing relationship” breaks up (often due to stresses/money worries from having children, even when planned, they are expensive) and you thus very often get biological kids and stepchildren sharing the same family house. often the age ranges are quite wide so grandchildren also end up in this same family house.

    I can understand why this happens as if I got with a woman who already had a kid I’d end up producing one of my own simply not to feel cuckolded – which I know isn’t right at all but I am not going to lie about my own male instincts.

    Also my own parents planned me for 1975/6 but “Dad got overexcited and forgot his precautions” in winter 1971, and that put a lot of financial strain on my parents, and more so when my sister was born in 1980 in similar times of austerity. And both of them had full time jobs. children in most nations regularly shared rooms until the 1980s, but even in ancient times were usually separated when puberty arrived in order to prevent the risk of incest (even in Norfolk).

    I don’t think young women in some areas breed simply for financial benefits but in all female mammals motherhood usually brings a rise in happiness and self esteem (or the species would go extinct). you can see this in the animal rescue homes (or large family households with pets) where cross-species adoption is not uncommon – in the village I work in two cats take it in turn to stand guard over the local children playing…

    it would make far more sense to create less stressful societies so couples first child bearing relationships survive and then people feel the need to have less children to start with.

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