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    wat more can i say watch it


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      That’s just too weird :omg_no: :crazy_diz :crazy_dru :you_crazy

      I’m sorry but I had to turn that off half way through.

      Obviously there is more to the WTC collapse than the official story but that video is grasping at straws and distorting coincidence in to a form of conspiracy because they WANT to see the links.

      I think psychologists call it confirmation bias. I’m sure you could take any images or any text and read in to it so deep that you could relate it to any incident throughout history.

      Well u need to watch it properly. u think that it is a coinsodence ?? those bills we’re brought out in 2000, 1 year before WTC disaster

      $5 bill – two towers standing
      $10 bill – one tower smoking
      £20 bill – both towers smoking

      9+11 = 20 – $20 ?

      Yeah I had watched that far. I just don’t buy in to it. I don’t want to sound like a patronising bore because I find the theories quite interesting. It’s just I don’t believe some of them. It’s finding relationships and patterns in things because you want to and your mind will put two and two together and make five.

      Although for the benefit of anybody else reading: Don’t just listen to me. Watch the video and make your own opinion, because I’m just airing mine and I’m not necessarily correct.

      had to stop watching half way tho
      soz
      gd thou
      xx xxx baby xx xxx x:weee:

      Aye, but if you’re really good, you can turn an entirely blank piece of paper into a gliding swan with careful folding. Pictures on your paper is cheating…Especially if we have to squint and look kind of side on to see what you’re getting at….:wink:

      Too much acid methinks… As Crew2000 used to say – you’ve done too much acid at the point you start finding conspiracy theories on the back of your cornflakes packet…:wink: Think that could be expanded to cover your bank notes with no trouble…

      Connections are easy to make if you look hard enough, and are willing to use logic in a totally illogical way to make your connections – you can essentially go from any idea to any other idea you can think of if all you require is plausability. It’s kinda like the 6 degrees of separation theory, but relating to language and ideas rather than people. (6 degrees of separation is a theory that says that there are only ever 6 degrees of separation between any 2 people on the planet – ie if you look at all the people they know personally, then look at the people those people know, and on etc, you will never need to do this for more than 6 iterations before you find a connection between them).

      Which is a form of numerology, or (to distance it from the kind of arithmetic that has the www being the mark of the beast because if you add this, then divide this…yada yada yada, then eventually you can make it so…:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy ), a fairly sound piece of statistical maths. After all, if each person has only ever met 50 other people, the total of people known within 6 degrees is 50 to the power of 6 = 15625000000 people. As there are only around 6.5 billion people on the planet at best guess, the odds are fairly good – about 0.416:1).

      After the folding money part of this video, it just gets totally carried away with itself making connection that leads to connection that leads to connection – it’s much like a game we used to play where you come up with 2 words or ideas, then someone has to connect them with an unbroken string of logic.

      Unfortunately, nobody told them that the reason for the recurrence of 13 on the dollar bill is due to that being the number of original states in the union – although counting the letters in “Annuit coeptis” and claiming they are part of the 13 conspiracy whatsit takes dedicated madness – especially as that isn’t the whole motto (which reads “Annuit Coeptis, Novus ordo seclorum” – which translates as “He has favoured our striving, and now we begin a new age” or something like – my latin isn’t terribly good, but that’s the gist).

      The dollar contains plenty of symbolism (not a surprise really, as the artwork is a rendering of the “Great Seal” of the union, and is essentially a coat of arms), but this has missed most of it. The pyramid (which is unfinished) was supposed to represent a work in progress, and the future growth of the nation. The eagle is the national emblem, and stands with a shield that has 13 red and 13 white stripes – or green and white at least – it’s supposed to be red (to symbolise hardiness and innocence, or somesuch). It holds 13 arrows in it’s right claw, and an olive branch in it’s left (with 13 leaves on it) (symbolising the power of both war and peace). 13 stars. The motto “E plurubis, unum”, meaning “out of many, one”. Loads of symbolism as you would expect. Doesn’t require folding jiggery pokery to have it stand for one ideal or other…

      The eye btw was originally meant as the “eye of providence” to signify that gods eye would cause the union to be provident, and has nothing to do with the eye of Horus (an ancient Egyptian symbol for their god Horus, the “ever seeing eye”, and the symbol used extensively by most mystical organisations at some point). The reason for it being confused is due to it being linked with Freemasonry at some point in the 18th century, and the fact that Benjamin Franklin was a freemason.

      As for the “interesting” potted tarot link up – nearly fell off my chair I was laughing so hard…:weee::weee::weee::weee::weee:

      I do read tarot myself, although not very often, because I’m not very good at telling people what they want to hear and tend to tell them what the cards say to me (been called a satanist or witch and had people fall out with me a few times when I’ve cut a bit too close to the bone:wink:).

      And the thing about tarot that people never get is that they don’t tell your future, or prophesize things. It won’t tell you anything you don’t already know, but it might cause you to look at things in a different way. Even though when readings are done, they usually have some sort of past, present, future layout to them (I do this myself), it is far more accurate to call it who, where and what. ie the reading tries to define who they are (past), where they are (present), and what they want (future).

      As for symbolism on tarot decks – the vid is way off there too. Tarot decks are as varied in art and included cards as you could imagine (I use a tarot based on Norse myths, in which the card for the Tower is a depiction of Ragnarok, and the crumbling of the Bifrost bridge – no towers in sight). My deck also has no emperor or empress… The pictures and symbolism are an aid to insight, not prophecy…:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy

      And I think I will stop ranting here, as it has devolved into “and another thing!”…:weee::weee::weee: . I’ve read most of what Crowley wrote (ran a book shop a few years back), and IMO he was as barmy as they come. Intelligent with it, and wrote some very strange plays, but definetly mad as a march hare…

      I think they need to go back to the drawing board with their conspiracy theory, cos as it is, I’m more likely to believe Elvis is alive and living on the moon in a double decker bus than this:weee::weee::weee::weee:

      And the conspiracy theorist in me says that the last bit about dollar talismans and qabbalistic talismans makes sense of the video. Wonder how much they’ll cost?:laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:

      Humorous though.

      noname wrote:
      Aye, but if you’re really good, you can turn an entirely blank piece of paper into a gliding swan with careful folding. Pictures on your paper is cheating…Especially if we have to squint and look kind of side on to see what you’re getting at….:wink:

      Too much acid methinks… As Crew2000 used to say – you’ve done too much acid at the point you start finding conspiracy theories on the back of your cornflakes packet…:wink: Think that could be expanded to cover your bank notes with no trouble…

      Connections are easy to make if you look hard enough, and are willing to use logic in a totally illogical way to make your connections – you can essentially go from any idea to any other idea you can think of if all you require is plausability. It’s kinda like the 6 degrees of separation theory, but relating to language and ideas rather than people. (6 degrees of separation is a theory that says that there are only ever 6 degrees of separation between any 2 people on the planet – ie if you look at all the people they know personally, then look at the people those people know, and on etc, you will never need to do this for more than 6 iterations before you find a connection between them).

      Which is a form of numerology, or (to distance it from the kind of arithmetic that has the www being the mark of the beast because if you add this, then divide this…yada yada yada, then eventually you can make it so…:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy ), a fairly sound piece of statistical maths. After all, if each person has only ever met 50 other people, the total of people known within 6 degrees is 50 to the power of 6 = 15625000000 people. As there are only around 6.5 billion people on the planet at best guess, the odds are fairly good – about 0.416:1).

      After the folding money part of this video, it just gets totally carried away with itself making connection that leads to connection that leads to connection – it’s much like a game we used to play where you come up with 2 words or ideas, then someone has to connect them with an unbroken string of logic.

      Unfortunately, nobody told them that the reason for the recurrence of 13 on the dollar bill is due to that being the number of original states in the union – although counting the letters in “Annuit coeptis” and claiming they are part of the 13 conspiracy whatsit takes dedicated madness – especially as that isn’t the whole motto (which reads “Annuit Coeptis, Novus ordo seclorum” – which translates as “He has favoured our striving, and now we begin a new age” or something like – my latin isn’t terribly good, but that’s the gist).

      The dollar contains plenty of symbolism (not a surprise really, as the artwork is a rendering of the “Great Seal” of the union, and is essentially a coat of arms), but this has missed most of it. The pyramid (which is unfinished) was supposed to represent a work in progress, and the future growth of the nation. The eagle is the national emblem, and stands with a shield that has 13 red and 13 white stripes – or green and white at least – it’s supposed to be red (to symbolise hardiness and innocence, or somesuch). It holds 13 arrows in it’s right claw, and an olive branch in it’s left (with 13 leaves on it) (symbolising the power of both war and peace). 13 stars. The motto “E plurubis, unum”, meaning “out of many, one”. Loads of symbolism as you would expect. Doesn’t require folding jiggery pokery to have it stand for one ideal or other…

      The eye btw was originally meant as the “eye of providence” to signify that gods eye would cause the union to be provident, and has nothing to do with the eye of Horus (an ancient Egyptian symbol for their god Horus, the “ever seeing eye”, and the symbol used extensively by most mystical organisations at some point). The reason for it being confused is due to it being linked with Freemasonry at some point in the 18th century, and the fact that Benjamin Franklin was a freemason.

      As for the “interesting” potted tarot link up – nearly fell off my chair I was laughing so hard…:weee::weee::weee::weee::weee:

      I do read tarot myself, although not very often, because I’m not very good at telling people what they want to hear and tend to tell them what the cards say to me (been called a satanist or witch and had people fall out with me a few times when I’ve cut a bit too close to the bone:wink:).

      And the thing about tarot that people never get is that they don’t tell your future, or prophesize things. It won’t tell you anything you don’t already know, but it might cause you to look at things in a different way. Even though when readings are done, they usually have some sort of past, present, future layout to them (I do this myself), it is far more accurate to call it who, where and what. ie the reading tries to define who they are (past), where they are (present), and what they want (future).

      As for symbolism on tarot decks – the vid is way off there too. Tarot decks are as varied in art and included cards as you could imagine (I use a tarot based on Norse myths, in which the card for the Tower is a depiction of Ragnarok, and the crumbling of the Bifrost bridge – no towers in sight). My deck also has no emperor or empress… The pictures and symbolism are an aid to insight, not prophecy…:you_crazy:you_crazy:you_crazy

      And I think I will stop ranting here, as it has devolved into “and another thing!”…:weee::weee::weee: . I’ve read most of what Crowley wrote (ran a book shop a few years back), and IMO he was as barmy as they come. Intelligent with it, and wrote some very strange plays, but definetly mad as a march hare…

      I think they need to go back to the drawing board with their conspiracy theory, cos as it is, I’m more likely to believe Elvis is alive and living on the moon in a double decker bus than this:weee::weee::weee::weee:

      And the conspiracy theorist in me says that the last bit about dollar talismans and qabbalistic talismans makes sense of the video. Wonder how much they’ll cost?:laugh_at::laugh_at::laugh_at:

      Humorous though.

      Its funny u say that because ive never touched acid in my life

      DJ-Zion wrote:
      Its funny u say that because ive never touched acid in my life

      :groucho:

      DJ-Zion wrote:
      Its funny u say that because ive never touched acid in my life

      really :groucho:

      what I heard about dollars and 9/11 was with my own ears and not even a conspiracy, it was so fucking blatant I could hardly believe it…

      As the internet news sites were starting to crash due to overload, I tuned an anlalogue radio into 0648Khz (BBC World Service) to keep up with the news.

      Predictably, a BBC reporter interviewed someone from the US Embassy in Washington to get an update on the situation…

      The diplomat fairly soon started talking about the dollar cost and economic impact of the incident, and had to be prompted by the BBC reporter to give an estimate of the casualty count.

      Thats all I needed to know about Washington’s real views about the incident.

      I don’t particularly think it was a conspiracy or inside job but it was obviously an “accepted risk” of US foreign policy and had maybe already been “budgeted for….”

      The whole worlds population are pawns in a lot of peoples various power games..

      I remember that too. Nice to know they were more worried about the cost in dollars than the loss of lives.:you_crazy

      Property has value but not lives :obey:

      I could see the coinsidence with the folding of the dollars an the little pictures… but then it went off in a tangent…. me thinks.

      Insanity wrote:
      I could see the coinsidence with the folding of the dollars an the little pictures… but then it went off in a tangent…. me thinks.

      Prophets have talked of folding sheets from right to left and top to botom, a dollor cannot be a sheet because its made out of a certain faberic, but if u interpret it into the two towers on the sheet then you have a sheet of metal

      Raj wrote:
      really :groucho:

      Yup dont like the stuff, me likes shrooms (only in season tho)

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