Anyone ever hear of them? Their some kind of anti-depression/mood elevator pills. Let me know if anyone has ever taken them, and if I should orally take them, or just snort the bitches. lol
why would you want to take that?
The most common reactions encountered are drowsiness, nausea/vomiting, headache and dry mouth. Other reactions reported include the following:
Behavioral:
Drowsiness, fatigue, lethargy, retardation, lightheadedness, dizziness, difficulty in concentration, confusion, impaired memory, disorientation, excitement, agitation, anxiety, tension, nervousness, restlessness, insomnia, nightmares, anger, hostility and, rarely, hypomania, visual distortions, hallucinations, delusions and paranoia.Neurologic:
Tremor, headache, ataxia, akathisia, muscle stiffness, slurred speech, retarded speech, vertigo, tinnitus, tingling of extremities, paresthesia, weakness, grand mal seizures (see Precautions), and, rarely impaired speech, muscle twitching, numbness, dystonia and involuntary movements.Autonomic:
Dry mouth, blurred vision, diplopia, miosis, nasal congestion, constipation, sweating, urinary retention, increased urinary frequency and incontinence.Cardiovascular:
Orthostatic hypotension, hypertension, tachycardia, palpitations, shortness of breath, apnea, syncope, arrhythmias, prolonged P-R interval, atrial fibrillation, bradycardia, ventricular ectopic activity (including ventricular tachycardia), myocardial infarction and cardiac arrest.Gastrointestinal:
Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, gastrointestinal discomfort, anorexia, increased appetite.Endocrine:
Priapism (see Warnings), decrease and, more rarely, increase in libido, weight gain and loss, and rarely, menstrual irregularities, retrograde ejaculation and inhibition of ejaculation.Allergic or toxic:
Skin rash, itching, edema, and, rarely, hemolytic anemia, methemoglobinemia, liver enzyme alterations, obstructive jaundice, leukocytoblastic vasculitis, purpuric maculopapular eruptions, photosensitivity and fever.Miscellaneous:
Aching joints and muscles, peculiar taste, hypersalivation, chest pain, hematuria, red, tired and itchy eyes.
are you in US by any chance?
I don’t know, their OK. Yes, I’m in the US.
just from observation on here… it seems a lot of young people in the US are prepared to take all kinds of medications to try and get a buzz. i get the impression that this is due to it being more difficult to get hold of the popular recreational drugs
is this the case for you?
yeah, i tried them. i traded some guy for them because i dont get a buzz off loritabs or vicodin anymore inless im smoking weed. im looking to try acid, but not regularly.
I thought I was stoopid snortin valium when I was younger, I dont see how taking a tricyclic AD would give any buzz at all.
Globalloon, ive def noticed that the drug scene in America is a lot more pharmaceutical A lot of the people that end up on methadone/heroin start with drugs like Vicodin/lortabs (mild opiate painkillers), its a pill for every ill culture unfortunately, (or fortunately if you prescribe to the control of the masses theory) so many people are hooked on pain meds over there.
Drugs in the UK are def easier to get. We take e’s and K for granted, but in the US, X as they call it is pretty rare and K is pretty much unheard of.
Yeah, estacy is kind of hard to get. And yeah, NO one does K over here, or I’ve never heard stories or anything. Theres SOME LSD over here… Um, lots of weed… Then of course all your addict shit like heroin, cocaine, etc.
Im just sayin be careful mate, vicodin/perocets/oxy’s etc, theyre all opiate based painkillers, they dont take long to get hooked on, just be careful. :love:
All opiate painkillers, as far as I know, are converted to the same active component in the body and therefore are all equally addictive regardless of initial form :hopeless:
and they are becoming popular this side of the pond as well as “come-down” drugs (so people can get sleep before work on monday) :yakk:
(why not just pace yourself and take less uppers, or set aside more time for recovery?)
Opiates
These are substances isolated from the opium poppy or synthetic relatives. (They are also called opioids.)
Examples:
Opiates depress nerve transmission in sensory pathways of the spinal cord and brain that signal pain. This explains why opiates are such effective pain killers. Opiates also inhibit brain centers controlling coughing, breathing, and intestinal motility. Both morphine and codeine are used as pain killers, and codeine is also used in cough medicine.
Opiates are exceedingly addictive, quickly producing tolerance and dependence. Although heroin is even more effective as a painkiller than morphine and codeine, it is so highly addictive that its use is illegal. Methadone is a synthetic opiate that is used to break addiction to heroin (and replace it with addiction to methadone).
Opiates bind to so-called mu (µ) receptors . These G-protein-coupled receptors are located on the subsynaptic membrane of neurons involved in the transmission of pain signals. Their natural ligands are two pentapeptides (containing five amino acids):
Release of enkephalins suppresses the transmission of pain signals. (Little is to be gained by having the perception of pain increase indefinitely in proportion to the amount of damage done to the body. Beyond a certain point, it makes sense to have a system that decreases its own sensitivity in the face of massive, intractable pain.)
By binding to enkephalin receptors, opiates like morphine enhance the pain-killing effects of enkephalin neurons. Opiate tolerance can be explained, at least in part, as a homeostatic response that reduces the sensitivity of the system to compensate for continued exposure to high levels of morphine or heroin. When the drug is stopped, the system is no longer as sensitive to the soothing effects of the enkephalin neurons and the pain of withdrawal is produced.
Mu (µ) receptors are also found on the cells in the medulla oblongata that regulate breathing. This accounts for the suppressive effect opiates have on breathing.
My understanding of it is that all opiates are converted to morphine in the liver, I know codeine is for sure and that drugs like cimetidine and ssri’s make the actual absorption rate very variable (sometimes as small as 10%) morphine – mu receptor
Whatever there all highly addictive and America has a vice for pain pills. They hardly use pure codeine over there like us (codeine phos, co-dydramol,co-codamol etc), they have no equivalent to our dihydrocodeine either, theyre meds are either acetimophen (paracetamol), ibuprofen, or opiates ranging from vicodin(hydrocodone) to perocets (oxycodone) which is similar to our bog standard morphine…
Just for some history too Morphine and Codeine are the two drugs first synthesised from opium poppys years ago, everything else has been derived from those two synthesis :hopeless: I shuld av been a chemist :groucho:
Sorry just read what I pasted in up top, its from an american site so it says that Heroin use is illegal, in the UK we have prescription heroin, its called diamorphine, heroin was a trade name given to diamorphine by a german pharmaceutical company, i think it was the same one that invented methadone, first known as dolophine. Methadone/dolophine, was first synthesized in 1937 by German scientists Max Bockmühl and Gustav Erhart
wow… lol. so any of you guys ever take lsd? im sure you guys have tried mdma
have a look around the forum – lots of threads on those
I used to take trazodone when I was let out from Detox – as far as I knew it was a non addictive tranquilizer.
Eating rather than snorting was better 150mg a night I would take then increased to 200mg – being glued to the bed was a nice experience when I was coming off methadone!!
SubutexDetoxer disagrees with me when I say that trazadone HCL is non opiate based – we discussed this on MSN – I still tend to disagree as Im sure he does.
Elliot
ok thanks for the help guys.
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