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  • Think most everything going into class B was already there as the majority of the phenidates had been placed under emergency TCDOs so none of those surprise me tbh. Class c is just a waste of fucking time tbh and I can’t wait until this shit is challenged in some court by someone with the intelligence and the balls to know what they’re talking about.

    class C is normally used for benzos whether then are on the national formulary or unlicensed are some of them are legitimate medications in other EU countries – also in healthcare it means these have slightly less strong security on storage (although diversion nowadays is near impossible, the patients supplies are carefully rationed and every last pill is counted (mislaid or refused pills stil have to be accounted for)

    A few years ago I had to install a telephone in some old granny lady’s room and the nurse came in to deliver the meds, I literally had to be watched by the nurse to ensure that either she took them or had a good reason for refusing them, and wasn’t trying to get me to remove the unwanted pills (although I wouldn’t want a medium half life benzo, I’d be asleep 2 days :D)

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    It’s fucking madness that medicines, benzos and opiates/opiods are both very addicitve, both medicines, but have massively different classifications under the MODA.

    Do you have any links to something explaining the rational behind the drug classification tiers we have in this country?

    there is some kind of explanation on two pages of the BNF [the paper one, not the free online NHS version] but aimed at medical professionals – in reality it is overcomplicated (similar to the USA) and nowhere else in Europe has anything similar, most countries all only have 2 classifications, “soft” or “hard” drugs and also whether the compound can legally be prescribed..

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    Never Never have I ever ever understood how we have 6!!! schedules in the USA.

    GL, Dasvid Nutt talks often and at length on the stupidity of the drug classifications.

    DB, sorry my friend but the US is to blame for this shit…….cannabis is still schedule 1 isn’t it?

    GL, Dasvid Nutt talks often and at length on the stupidity of the drug classifications.

    DB, sorry my friend but the US is to blame for this shit…….cannabis is still schedule 1 isn’t it?

    Yes it is still schedule 1 and will be for the foreseeable future thanks to the current administration and the DEA thugs who still demonize it so they can get more money for eradication programs (yet anyone anywhere except total fucking backwater shitholes can find dank whenever they want).

    The whole concept of having the DEA is a flawed idea.

    Scotland tried something similar, and soon abandoned the idea, the resources being merged back into the NHS and Police Scotland (since doing this crime and drug issues in Scotland have decreased, whilst at the same time genuinely dangerous situations are picked up on quicker than in England.

    One thing online comments gave me the impression was happening in USA and was even more fucked up [if true] was that so-called “cannabis entrepreneurs” in some states were paradoxically voting for cannabis to be legalised but also for Trumpf/Republicans – they feared if Democrats got in there would be “Europe style” tax and quality regulations on their products that would “get in the way of their business”.

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    The 2010 proposition in California failed because of a combination of Republicans who are very against marijuana and people working in grey areas or selling cannabis illegally who thought it would hurt business.

    Sadly most of the legalization efforts haven’t included provisions to grow your own, and in the words of Jack Herer, paraphrasing here; “if you can’t grow it on your own it isn’t legal”.

    The UK Government has published a list of compounds that will move from being regulated under the Psychoactive Substances Act to the Misuse of Drugs Act. (you can check the original legislation on the UK gov website if you wish, I am wary to link it here for security reasons).

    When the legislation is passed (this is likely to happen around June) these compounds will become as illegal to possess as “normal drugs” (previously it was only an offence to sell or try and import them).

    They will get the classifications listed below:

    Class A
    3,4-dichloro-N-[2-(dimethylamino)cyclohexyl]-N-methylbenzamide (U-47,700)

    Class B
    N-Benzyl-ethylphenidate
    Ethylnaphthidate
    Ethylphenidate
    Isopropylphenidate (IPP or IPPD)
    Methylmorphenate
    Methylnaphthidate (HDMP-28)
    Propylphenidate
    3,4-Dichloroethylphenidate
    3,4-Dichloromethylphenidate (3,4-DCMP)
    4-Fluoroethylphenidate
    4-Fluoromethylphenidate
    4-Methylmethylphenidate

    Class C
    Adinazolam
    Bromazolam
    4’-Chlorodiazepam
    Clonazolam
    Deschloroetizolam
    Diclazepam
    Etizolam
    Flubromazepam
    Flubromazolam
    Fonazepam
    3-Hydroxyphenazepam
    Meclonazepam
    Metizolam
    Nifoxipam
    Nitrazolam
    Pyrazolam

    Post the .gov link you fucking buffoon lol

    Heres the whole ACMD document as a separate attachment. TBH its not even so much that I’m worried about NCA or GCHQ these days; its more that I don’t want to give the puritans at our current Govt something to gloat about when their techies follow the links back to here (they’ve known all about this place since Talk to Frank days, when they used to republish harm reduction bits from here (they did at least credit us)

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    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    You’re a star 🙂

    The law was approved by Parliament this week and comes into force on 31st May (copy of the SI is attached to this post)..

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

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