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  • Now this I don’t quite understand. Most village halls have a PEL, so provided the organisers aren’t illegally running the event beyond permitted licensing hours and do not cause undue noise nuisance what offence (if any) is being committed? Surely these hall parties are legal and should be permitted?

    Rave Still A Threat – Police Warning

    News supplied by: Suffolk Constabulary
    Published: 26 October 2005 17:26

    Police are issuing a seasonal warning to village hall managers: ?make sure your venue is not targeted by illegal rave organisers…
    Police are issuing a seasonal warning to village hall managers: β€œmake sure your venue is not targeted by illegal rave organisers.”
    The change in the weather heralds a change of tactic from those who organise illegal raves – as they turn their attention to indoor venues rather than outside events.
    Last month, police successfully thwarted a rave which was about to start at a hall in Thorndon, near Eye. Officers, working closely with staff at the hall, closed the venue and turned away a number of people who had started to gather at the venue.
    β€œRaves – whether indoors or outdoors – cause a great deal of disruption to local communities and often result in a damage of property and land,” said Superintendent Mark Cordell of Suffolk Police.
    β€œOnce in full swing, they are difficult to stop. However, when we have intelligence and information from the public about a potential rave, we have been successful in preventing them.”
    Police are asking those who operate venues such as village halls and barns to be aware of the threat of illegal raves – and consider a few simple precautions to help ensure that bookings for their venue are genuine.
    β€œOrganisers of illegal raves disguise their intentions by hiring venues for occasions such as 21st birthday parties.,” said Supt Cordell.
    β€œWe would advise managers of local venues to be wary of people making bookings at very short notice, particularly if they are not local; if they don’t know a person making a booking, they should take a full, verifiable address and contact number for them and ask for an appropriate damage deposit, in cash, up front.
    And, if they have any concerns or suspicions about those making the booking, they should contact the police.”
    Police are also urging local people to help them prevent illegal raves – by reporting any information about raves or sightings of large groups of vehicles gathering.

    Very strange.

    AFAIK most of the hall parties held go off responsibly and usualy finish at the designated time.

    Like you say, most village halls also have PEL’s so no problem there. The only issue is the noise I suppose but that’s hardly a reason to issue a regional warning to scare hall owners.

    It’s as if they WANT to force the soundsystem crews to use unlicensed property.

    Odd.

    Yep.. u 2 are right! madness!

    Went to once in kent no probs at all.
    shame it was hard house πŸ˜‰

    the plot thickens..

    was reading a Drug Action Team report for the local area (found it on Google whilst looking for rave info!). It clearly hints that they have been getting youth workers etc to speak to kids and found out that people often travel to Norfolk, and Cambridgeshire for raves.

    A DAT was tasked with harm reduction but recently demand reduction (i.e prohibition) is coming back to the fore after the failure of cannabis downgrading to reduce demand.

    Each area has to provide a count of how many drug users there are to central Government; this is derived not just from what cops say but from NHS submitted figures and youth workers surveys.

    The numbers are counted by region (East of England) but also by county (Norfolk, Suffolk, Cambs, Herts, Essex, Beds).

    Suffolk authorities clearly seem to believe that by reducing the number of raves of any kind in their area, they are reducing the number of drug users in their county; and also passing the problems into other areas (one of Tash Lodge’s articles on his site mentions this was happening as early as 1993)

    they have accepted the problems with binge drinking and feel they should be contained by limiting licenses and using pubwatch/cops/ccTV to bear down on anti-social behaviour.

    Unfortunately rave culture (which to a normal person includes UK garage) is seen as part of the problem rather than part of the solution..

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