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MTV was around in the 1980s/90s 😉 I worked on a lot of their transmission equipment, along with C4, Five… IMO its more a loss of the self-deprecating and British cultural identity which didn’t take itself as seriously and its increasing replacement with American pretentiousness and competion within subcultures (bullshit like actual proms in high school, WTF?)

to be fair a lot of people below 21 are starting to wise up, and especially younger teens but for people from their mid 20s to my age there is some proper fucking carnage at the moment.

So many people I know are going through mental health problems and all sorts, either they are feeling they’ve just fucked up their lives and have no future or they feel cheated as they were promised a lot in the 80s/90s about being able to realise their ambitions and find it just isn’t gonna happen..

@p0ly 392086 wrote:

Well back in the 80’s 90’s MTV was what it said on the tin, Music tv.

These days they just show stupid shows like ‘MY SUPER SWEET 16’ showing stupid spoiled materialistic rich bastards 16th birthday parties and similar crap!! Barely any music is actually shown and it doesn’t deserve the title MTV.

its best time in the UK was around 1992-2000… TVAM lost its licence in 1992 and so MTV bought and used to make the UK shows locally from the old TVAM building in NW1. I think they decomissioned this studio a few years back, now they just make cheap low budget single camera shows, if the progs aren’t just sent over from the USA the raw footage is just uploaded from London to Poland and edited there (as the costs are cheaper!)

but that shite you mention really has got into the headspace of a lot of young people. People who should be old enough to know better (as well as teenagers) still aspire to those American-style lifestyles, and the TV networks feed it as what remains of them is frantically scraping about for the remaining ad revenue

@Digital-A 392147 wrote:

I would lay blame on her high profile life which is proven to cause more problems that it solves.

There are a number of other suicides of much less high profile teenage mephedrone users.

I agree the root cause is both underlying mental health issues and the competitiveness of teenage life today (its also interesting that all the 30-something users who are mostly old-skool rave survivors have not suffered any real problems!) but the emotional effects of stimulant drugs combined with teenage mood swings should not be underestimated. Not just mephedrone but MDMA and all amfetamine-type stimulants.

I remember nearly as much carnage in the 1990s and 2000s when MDMA first became popular. There weren’t so many suicides and parasuicides but a lot of impulsive and irrational behaviour on comedowns including a rise in domestic violence. This I witnessed amongst my own peers, it rarely came to notice of the NHS or other authorities (and by extension the media). However the lesser availabilty, higher price and a more optimistic outlook for teenagers as a whole meant there was less danger.

bear in mind also it took nearly 10 years from MDMA turning up in the UK for it to become a really popular drug, it still had to be obtained through risky shady illegal sources and its high price meant many binge users either had to cut down or ran out of posessions to sell or got busted for acquisitive crime which wholly shook up youths who did have some moral values and made them calm down..

Mephedrone was sold by post within months of discovery and people were doing it by the boatload.