Party Vibe

They still blame kids for violence because of the newer video games although its most likely they were violent little shits to start with from the time they were in kindergarten, due to bad parenting/supervision and growing up in environments where “might makes right”.

TBH I do think that a good looking girl with money and prospects should perhaps “snap out of it” and look on the “bright” side – however shit her life or whatever pre-existing mental health conditions she might have had was she was still living a lifestyle thousands of girls in the UK alone would envy, even without the drugs.

Out of the other young people who used mephedrone a lot of them got a fright and many did calmed down their use, but reading the reports on places like bluelight others kept on doing it … its true society doesn’t want to accept responsibility but at the same many people don’t want to set themselves boundaries, and limit their indulgence in a pleasurable action when it becomes harmful. I’ve seen too many people what know their drug use is harming themselves and others, and yet stubbornly continue with it.

stimulants aren’t for everyone, some folk just can’t handle the comedowns, especially when other setbacks occur in life. thankfully most people on here admit this. They are by no means “killer drugs” if used sensibly but I definitely think they make people commit impulsive acts and the mood swings have particularly bad effects on some. Bear in mind that if you’re older you’ve learnt to deal with your emotions a bit better…

Perhaps it should have been sold with “challenge 25” :laugh_at:

@`Matt 392209 wrote:

The other major problem with young people i offen see is the “ladish” and “chav” culture some choose to follow, where they go out of bringes and try and test there limits. I bumped into a bunch of old school friends a week or two ago and they where all telling me how they had brought 50g packs of meth and done them in a week, and were sorting 1g lines. As if it was something big and impressive.

People need to be educated and not miseducated. I often at college sit in painfully bad form tutor sessions getting told how if you smoke cannabis etc you will get mental health problems. I even once asked my tutor whats the safest way to smoke weed should i use a bong, vaporiser or smoke it in a joint. The poor guy didnt even no what i was talking about, and hes the person in charge of teaching our school about drug dangers :S.

its a difficult one as there is much more genuine education available on forums like this and bluelight compared to the 1990s. that said there were lads in my time but they simply couldn’t afford loads of drugs without thieving. Not that they didn’t still do it but they got caught and sent down (more often for burglaries than drugs). This did act as a bit of a deterrent to the smarter folks..

With the college tutor, one big issue is if you have a CRB check what says you have a criminal record for being a drug user (I do) its harder to get a job as a college tutor, there will be 20 others for that job what have the same or more qualifications and not been as rebellious in their youth. So the kind of people you get as tutors are the “goody two shoes” anyway.

TBH it might be he does know but is deliberately playing dumb and any embarassment is his own guilt at the hipocrisy. Lets say he did give you advice but you had some drugs-related health problem later, and it got out to your parents that the tutor had given you “pro-drug” advice. His career is on the line – and who wants to risk their job after competing so hard to get it, just for one teenager when there are thousands in the college?

@`Matt 392211 wrote:

Yh its kinda a catch 22, theres no real answer at the end of the day. Theres far too much politics involed if you ask me. If you cant answer a question on a subject because of risk of your job, dont try and education on that subject thats my view really.

a lot of teachers are very cynical and certainly won’t give up a well paid job for “principles” there are also teachers / lecturers these days what simply disagree with drug use, won’t budge and they have the power.

some give the impression they do not want drug users to succeed at all, they want them to fuck their lives up and stay in the gutter. they don’t actually feel drug users should have an opinion its only because of “political correctness” and wanting to keep their salaries they don’t admit to their real views but someone with negative views can do a lot of damage to young people and not get found out if they provide the right paperwork.

I was reading some other info about the old bill in suffolk and they are putting sniffer dogs into 16-18 age colleges here :hopeless:

@Raj 392459 wrote:

When the MDMA was big in clubs and the clubs werent selling much alcohol there was a huge outcry from the alcohol marketing companies – their profits were falling as a result. This eventually ended the ‘safer dancing’ policies as to have the policies implemented meant you were admitting your clubbers took drugs and this is against the law. Damned if you do and damned if you dont…
Result: clubs which had chillout areas lost their licences and were closed leaving only those which didnt care for their punter’s safety; the most notorious was perhaps Hangar 13 in scotland where people died of heat prostration due to the conditions in the club.

somewhat ironically, the situation was worse in Scotland (even post-devolution) than England as the anti-drugs hardliners took over (despite Scotland’s politics traditionally being more left wing) – discredited hardliners such as failed cop and failed parent Paul Betts fled from East Anglia to Scotland after the local harm reduction folk here exposed the fact that his anti-drugs paranoia and controlling attitude was clearly what made his daughter drink excessive amounts of water.

In England they further exposed rumours of collusion between his constabulary (in which he had a senior rank) and known organised criminals (it could have equally been sketchy policing rather than a conspiracy, however Betts was senior enough to have done a better job, some of the rumours were that his teams “allowed” a number of revenge killings they could have stopped to avenge his daughters death).

These have exacerbated the problems with organised/violent crime in EA, the problems remain to this day and both police and civillians alike in EA are still dealing with them.

Unfortunately Betts managed to set up a public funded anti-drugs campaign for some years in Scotland, until NHS Scotland worked out how crap it was, closed it down, fired him and took over his staff :love:

In England the “libertarian hedonists” somehow managed to convince both the Tories and New Labour they could sort the problem out themselves and also keep the breweries happy, hence superclubs etc. plus the dot-com boom and a period of relative economic prosperity meant the authorities took their eyes off the ball even with regard to unlicensed events. However 10 years later all this has done is merged townie binge drinking culture with the party drugs scene… :hopeless: