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  • Not often you see me on the same side as the motoring lobby; but this is a dangerous idea. the current system of duty on road fuel is the fairest – your vehicle uses more fuel with distance and engine size anyway so those with the petrol guzzlers pay more…

    this system would encourage rat-running through cheaper rural areas as well 🙁

    there is also a serious personal freedom issue with installing trackers in every vehicle. Although the govt will emphasise positives such as you could have a satnav system as well so you will never get lost, once this system is active any car without a tracker would be stopped by traffic cops; and it would be trivial to deny certain people use of the roads for whatever other reasons – you could kiss goodbye to free party convoys, they would be stopped and dispersed within minutes of setting out on the road.. 🙁

    ‘Pay-as-you-go’ road charge plan
    Drivers could pay up to £1.34 a mile in “pay-as-you go” road charges under new government plans. The transport secretary said the charges, aimed at cutting congestion, would replace road tax and petrol duty.

    Alistair Darling said change was needed if the UK was to avoid the possibility of “LA-style gridlock” within 20 years.

    Every vehicle would have a black box to allow a satellite system to track their journey, with prices starting from as little as 2p per mile in rural areas.

    Governments will upset at their peril society’s wish to do what it wants to do and that is to move around
    Professor Garel Rhys
    Centre for Automotive Industry Research

    Mr Darling has outlined his proposals to the BBC – previewing a speech he will give to the Social Market Foundation on Thursday.

    “The advantage is that you would free up capacity on the roads, you would reduce the congestion that we would otherwise face and you would avoid the gridlock that you see in many American cities today,” he said.

    “This is a prize well worth going for. We’ve got to ask ourselves: would it work. Could it bring the benefits that I believe it could bring, because it would make a real change to the way we drive in this country.”

    A satellite tracking system would be used to enforce the toll, with prices varying from 2p per mile for driving on a quiet road out of the rush hour to £1.34 for motorways at peak times.

    The Department of Transport says the scheme would be fairer because those who travel greater distances would pay the most.

    “We have got to do everything we can during the course of this parliament to decide whether or not we go with road pricing,” Mr Darling said.

    If public reaction is favourable, a pilot scheme planned for the Leeds area could be rolled out nationwide within the next 10 years.

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    It is more likely to make people think about the cost of a journey before undertaking it
    Giles, Hitchin, UK

    The Environment Agency’s Nick Rijke warned that shifting money away from fuel duty would take away the incentive for people to use green vehicles.

    And AA Motoring Trust director Bert Morris said there were a number of issues which needed to be addressed.

    “Tourism is car-based in this country. Would we have empty hotels on summer days on the coast if people couldn’t afford to drive?”

    It was also important to ensure that drivers with less money were not penalised, Mr Morris added.

    RAC Foundation spokeswoman Sue Nicholson said the plan could help counter a projected 45% growth in congestion problems by 2030.

    Improving alternatives

    “Providing this tax was substitutional to fuel tax and road tax and provided we had some other guarantees then I think, for a lot of people, this would be a tempting option,” she said.

    Environmental group Friends of the Earth broadly welcomed road charging but warned the transport crisis could only be tackled if money raised was invested in improving alternatives to car travel.

    Professor Garel Rhys, director of the Centre for Automotive Industry Research at Cardiff university’s business school, believed road pricing would have to be introduced in the UK.

    But he warned: “The key is trying to introduce those tolls without affecting the flow of traffic, ie. not having to stop and pay at a booth which caused congestion itself.

    “Governments will upset at their peril society’s wish to do what it wants to do and that is to move around.”

    Story from BBC NEWS:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/uk/4610755.stm

    Published: 2005/06/05 15:11:29 GMT

    © BBC MMV

    if I set off for london at about 4pm, it would cost me over £300, plus my fuel

    the same price regardless of whether I am driving a 900cc nissan micra, or an 8 door stretch rolls

    which sounds like the poll tax to me

    it seems the only transport plans are about making people pay even more than they already do to sit in traffic, without any regard for environmental impact or any alternative to car travel (esp in rural and semi rural areas)

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