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  • Everyone who buys a mobile telephone will be forced to register their identity on a national database under government plans to extend massively the powers of state surveillance.

    Phone buyers would have to present a passport or other official form of identification at the point of purchase. Privacy campaigners fear it marks the latest government move to create a surveillance society.

    A compulsory national register for the owners of all 72m mobile phones in Britain would be part of a much bigger database to combat terrorism and crime. Whitehall officials have raised the idea of a register containing the names and addresses of everyone who buys a phone in recent talks with Vodafone and other telephone companies, insiders say.

    The move is targeted at monitoring the owners of Britain’s estimated 40m prepaid mobile phones. They can be purchased with cash by customers who do not wish to give their names, addresses or credit card details.

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    You can’t escape: it’s spy web, plan B Terror police target internet phone calls There’s no hiding place as spy HQ plans to see all The pay-as-you-go phones are popular with criminals and terrorists because their anonymity shields their activities from the authorities. But they are also used by thousands of law-abiding citizens who wish to communicate in private.

    The move aims to close a loophole in plans being drawn up by GCHQ, the government’s eavesdropping centre in Cheltenham, to create a huge database to monitor and store the internet browsing habits, e-mail and telephone records of everyone in Britain.

    The “Big Brother” database would have limited value to police and MI5 if it did not store details of the ownership of more than half the mobile phones in the country.

    Contingency planning for such a move is already thought to be under way at Vodafone, where 72% of its 18.5m UK customers use pay-as-you-go.

    The office of Richard Thomas, the information commissioner, said it anticipated that a compulsory mobile phone register would be unveiled as part of a law which ministers would announce next year.

    “With regards to the database that would contain details of all mobile users, including pay-as-you-go, we would expect that this information would be included in the database proposed in the draft Communications Data Bill,” a spokeswoman said.

    Simon Davies, of Privacy International, said he understood that several mobile phone firms had discussed the proposed database in talks with government officials.
    As The Sunday Times revealed earlier this month, GCHQ has already been provided with up to £1 billion to work on the pilot stage of the Big Brother database, which will see thousands of “black boxes” installed on communications lines provided by Vodafone and BT as part of a pilot interception programme.

    The proposals have sparked a fierce backlash inside Whitehall. Senior officials in the Home Office have privately warned that the database scheme is impractical, disproportionate and potentially unlawful. The revolt last week forced Jacqui Smith, the home secretary, to delay announcing plans for the database until next year.

    Passports will be needed to buy mobile phones – Times Online

    Another step closer to Police state. Great! :hopeless:

    :you_crazy

    fucked up isnt it. surely it just means there will be a blackmarket for unregistered mobile phones. Think of all the old phones and sims floating about out there now. They can try and block them, but people will always find a way of unbloaking them. Either that or you could just get other people to buy the phone and register it for you… seems like its gonna create more problems than it’ll solve. The criminals will still be untraceble, but they’ll just be able to trace the people that dont need tracking if you get what i mean…

    This idea is complete bullshit man, more money being spent for yet more problems … idiot government.

    I think we are going to have a cctv camera in every home before 2020.

    This is total madness

    once again looks like we’re gonna be walked all over again by the goverment

    well, if this looks like comin in, i suggest we go and buy a couple each, b4 it does…

    2 b clear, this is another part of the communication data bill, which is currently at the ‘green paper’ stage, which means its a long way from becoming law. it will undoubtably be modified b4 it gets debated and voted on.

    its certainly alarming tho… :hopeless:

    Absolutely shocking. :yakk:

    I’m confused by all this, Does this mean that every single person in this country will have their phonecalls recorded? But would it happen if a certain trigger word is said cos surely there wouldn’t be enough ‘space’ to record each call. I ain’t worried though cos i’m a law abiding citizen these days.:crazy_dru

    apparently its not the content of the communication, so much as the fact that the communication has taken place.

    tho of course the powers that be already have the ability to monitor the contents of phone calls, e-mails or even postings on blogs and forums.

    altho i’m as worried as the next man, the bill is a long way from becoming law in its present form. there is gonna be a big fight over this, because the bill, as suggested in the green paper (basically the first version of the bill that is published for public consultation), is clearly pretty draconian!

    i expect it to be heavily modded b4 it goes b4 parliament 4 a vote.

    as an example of the upcomingfight, here is a bit of good news, and an example of how the govt is gonna struggle to get it thru, in its present form. this is the opinion of the Director of Public Prosecutions (the head of the CPS), from the Guardian.

    Director of Public Prosecutions attacks approach to fighting terror | Politics | The Guardian

    Hello POLICE STATE?

    Fascists.

    i’d say thats a totally rational reaction, if it goes thru as it stands, i’m headin out the door.

    dunno where i’d go tho! 😉

    it does make me wonder…with all the serveillance that goes on……how many bloody people do they need to monitor it correctly….sureley there arent wnough peeps in the uk to keep track of the ammount of surveillance that goes on….or is it computers that take sole responsibility for our safety….total madness

    One.badgerinpink;244431 wrote:
    it does make me wonder…with all the serveillance that goes on……how many bloody people do they need to monitor it correctly….sureley there arent wnough peeps in the uk to keep track of the ammount of surveillance that goes on….or is it computers that take sole responsibility for our safety….total madness

    be computers. they record everything then if the police wanted they could use voice recognition to pull up the thousands of phone calls you’ve made whether its from your phone or someone elses. pretty scary really.

    I have heard that they are already keeping a ‘backup’ of all txts and phone calls ready for when they have the processing power to sift through it all. :crazy:

    TEK Tonic;244535 wrote:
    I have heard that they are already keeping a ‘backup’ of all txts and phone calls ready for when they have the processing power to sift through it all. :crazy:

    dodgy. surely any info before that communications bill goes through they wouldnt be able to use tho, not that it matters really as im sure they could just use it to gather intelligence even if they couldnt use it in court. looks like its gonna have to go back to smoke signals, semaphore and two yoghurt cups and a length of string.

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