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  • http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/3567684.stm

    “Shoppers in Swansea will this week join a trial of a high-tech ID card that could become compulsory under Home Office plans.
    Volunteers are being asked to have fingerprints, irises, and facial details recorded as part of the UK Passport Service (UKPS) trial.

    The experiment aims to weed out problems and get public feedback before the planned introduction date of 2007.

    The mobile unit will be based at the Asda store in Morriston for the week.

    The trial site being launched in Swansea today is a vital part of this, laying the foundations for a robust and effective national identity card scheme

    Home Office Minister Des Browne

    It is the only Welsh trial as the UK Passport Service looks for 10,000 volunteers across the UK over six months.

    Volunteers will get a demonstrator “smart card” containing their details on an electronic chip.

    It is planned to include biometrics (facial features) in passports and to build a base for the national compulsory identity cards scheme.

    There are objections to national ID cards among some.

    Critics fear it might cause friction among ethnic minorities and set back race relations.

    There are other fears that the cards might drive illegal immigrants into hiding.

    Civil liberties campaigners say thousands of ordinary people could be criminalised if they refused to own the cards.

    Home Office Minister Des Browne said those taking part in the Swansea trial would be playing an important role.

    “Identity crime is a growing threat to all countries,” he said.

    “It costs the UK £1.3 billion a year, and facilitates organised crime, illegal immigration, benefit fraud, illegal working and terrorism.

    “Only by planning ahead and taking steps now can we ensure that in the years to come we will be able to take on the increasingly sophisticated methods used by criminals.

    “The government is to introduce a compulsory national UK identity card scheme to help tackle organised crime and protect the identities of British citizens.

    “Using cutting-edge technology, the cards will link individuals’ unique biometric data, such as iris scans, to a secure national database.

    “The trial site being launched in Swansea is a vital part of this, laying the foundations for a robust and effective national identity card scheme.”

    BIOMETRIC PILOT SCHEMES
    Target of 10,000 volunteers
    No figures yet, but more than 16,000 have shown an interest
    All details are destroyed and feedback anonymous
    Aims to identify any practical difficulties and give a cost projection of full scheme
    Current cost predicted £1.3bn to £3.1bn”

    I dind’t realise this was starting yet – I’ve obviously been walking around with my eyes closed!

    Clearly there are some worrying aspects to this ID card plan. The main one being that the government don’t seem to be giving us any single clear reason for wanting to introduce the cards.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3568468.stm

    In many parts of Europe it is compulsory (on paper) to carry identification. However, this often dates back to Nazi occupied times (e.g. France) and isn’t enforced anymore. When it is enforced it is quite often by corrupt cops (esp in parts of eastern europe) looking for a chance to ‘fine’ you.

    I used to live in France and ID cards are a bureaucratic nightmare… One French friend went to the town hall to renew her 10 year ID after it expired. It took her 2 years, many wasted days and many headaches to ‘prove’ that she was French. I can’t begin to imagine how much harder it was for non-EU immigrants.

    I did have a french work permit (carte de sejour) but never actually needed it. The one time I did try to claim some money back from the state I didn’t need to show it. I had to show my parents birth certificates to get one. I showed them a random bit of forged paper instead.

    the UK version is either worrying, or a complete waste of time, or both.

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