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  • I watched this documentary type film earlier on google and thought it was a well put together piece… the storylines shit but the actual information (which includes REAL interviews) provided by officials and doctors is pretty good… take a look and see what you think..

    What if Drugs Were Legal?

    http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2908621023073531157&q=drugs

    Also there is another funnyer show..

    Penn and Teller, Bullshit! War on Drugs.

    http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-3653114296815352489&q=drugs

    Also get involved in the fight for change

    Transform Drugs Policy Foundation

    http://www.tdpf.org.uk

    Im sick of being persicuted and im sure you would like to be able to get a pure, good E or some Real Strong Acid in the future.

    Peace
    Jack

    not one single comment on that? quite disapointed at our communitys want to be free to do what we enjoy. where are your balls guys and girls… well not girls…. hmmm come on.

    watched most of the first video and found it old news. of course proibition has failed

    classbhero wrote:
    not one single comment on that? quite disapointed at our communitys want to be free to do what we enjoy. where are your balls guys and girls… well not girls…. hmmm come on.

    most of us do want prohibition to end but TBH the people you need to get through to are the ordinary people on the street who don’t take any kind of drugs but currently feel threatened and intimidated by the actions of those who do.

    You are speaking from the viewpoint of an enthusiastic young man who has not had any real negative life experiences from drugs – and TBH you come across as intelligent enough to be able to regulate your own use and not have any problems or to deal with them quickly when you do, in common with many of the users of this forum.

    But – there has been a 16 year legacy of major drugs culture in Britain – in the late 80s/early 90s the rave scene moved drug taking out of the realm of obvious “hippy/alternative” types and popularised it for every youth in England.

    For some it was a passing phase, for others they managed to regulate themselves, but for a significant minority they became addicted, committed crime to fund their habits or just due to the mental distrurbances that drugs can create (such as attacking people out of pure paranoia or comedown anger).

    Even on this board there are people sharing some fairly harrowing experiences about how they started off on party drugs yet moved on to heroin. Some have committed serious crime to fund their habits; others have just put themselves and the others around them through hell.

    More recently when cannabis became class C there were many pro-drug campaigners journos initially saying how good this was – until their teenage sons/daughters started caning it and becoming too stoned to study / do any other useful work or even started having mental health problems.

    One of my relatives works in a local Emergency Department in his home city – he is training to be a paramedic and is often the first person who deals with patients. He always gets loads presenting at a weekend who have overdone the drugs and/or alcohol – up to 20 or so extra people who are otherwise healthy and need not be in hospital.

    Another one of my relatives works in a NHS mental health unit and sees the “long term casualties” who have suffered mental problems from drugs. There are rather a large number in their late 20s and 30s, who started out with “club drugs”.

    OK there was a bit of a lack of education in the early 90s but still people should exercise a bit of self-control if they don’t wish the nanny state to control them..

    At the moment people binge too much on both drugs and alcohol and its often friends, familes, the NHS and even the cops who get left to pick up the pieces.

    This is what wider society sees of drug use and that is why many people still wish prohibition to continue – it will take more than videos of spin but genuine efforts from drug users to show they can regulate their intake and not cause wider society any problems.

    thanks for your replying… i intend to do something to help the situation will out… i was thinking a while ago about writing a book using REAL stories from erowid etc… good and bad to give a unbiased book full of imformation for our youth as i dont think adults will be any less scared of drugs in the future unless we educated ALL of the countries future adults. I dont actually have the time to write/compile the book as i study or work every day.

    peace

    jack

    classbhero wrote:
    I dont actually have the time to write/compile the book as i study or work every day.

    peace

    jack

    don’t worry too much about the book yet (drugs books often go out of date quickly TBH!) – you are already helping the cause just by remaining in education or work and discussing drugs use in an intelligent manner as well as having fun raaa

    ok true, but how can we do something about the education young people get at school. All drugs are just demonised is such a way as to either scare people away from them (which i suppose is the tactic) or just makes the kids laugh it off because others personal experiances do not actually live up to what they are being told. I know my Education was filled with lies and half truths. Not really the way to go is it.

    peace

    I remember discussing the education issue with you some months ago – and was rather shocked to find that drugs education hadn’t actually changed since my own high school days back in the late 1980s!

    However to change the prohibitiionist attiude would also mean Britain has to withdraw from a UN convention on combating narcotics use which is the source of the worlds currently prohbitionist stance. IMO this whole convention must be re-assessed at UN level (perhaps by the EU and UK working together to force this through, as currently most anti-drugs sentiment comes from the USA and Asia) before any real progress can be made, otherwise there is a threat to international relations.

    I have to catch a train to London now but can carry on with this discussion when I return (might be tomorrow evening 😉 ) unless you wish to look this up for yourself (try wikipedia)

    classbhero wrote:
    ok true, but how can we do something about the education young people get at school.

    a guy i work with set up a peer education project in schools about 8 years ago. this involved training a few students on the facts about various drugs (how they affect mind and body, possible health consequences, legislation and penalties, typical purity etc)

    those students then shared that information with others in the school in a number of ways

    the project was independant of the school and polcie etc, so they could give factual information with no agenda

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