I have become very interested (some would say obsessed!) with the idea of the afterlife, if indeed there is one! It is something I have never really thought about up until the passed few weeks, I suppose you could say, like majority of others in the world I was pulled into the laborious materialistic routine of daily life, without much time for deep meaningful thought regarding the things that really matter.
I cant stand the idea, that upon death, I will cease to exist, which is the opinion of some people I have spoken to.
I find it extremely depressing to think that it would be true. How can I just no longer exist? my conciousness zapped away into nothing.
Whenever I ask somebody, e.g friends or family about their views regarding the afterlife and death, they usually reply with ‘I dont know, I have never really thought about it’
How can people not think about something that is so important! Something that is such a huge happening. Everybody and everything will die at some point, I don’t understand why governments haven’t pumped huge amounts of funding into finding out the true answers. Or am I the only one who contemplates this?
I have read a lot into DMT, A surprisingly simple chemical that is contained in everything. Upon death huge amounts of DMT are released from the pineal gland (also known as the third eye).
It is also used as a psychedelic drug, the strongest psychedelic drug known.
When DMT is taken strange visions of other realms and beings are seen, the tripper looses all sense of time. It is some peoples belief that DMT is the ticket to the afterlife, that when we die DMT allows our soul or spirit to leave the body, and enter another realm. And that when we are born, DMT pulls the soul into the body.
Or is DMT just mothers natures way of getting humans and animals as fucked as it is possible at the moment of death? the moment we cease to exist?
Have a look at ‘DMT the spirit molecuel’ on youtube, it will give you more of an understanding than what i could ever write on here.
part 1 link below, you can find the other parts from there. there are a few other videos on youtube that could be worth watching too relating to DMT.
YouTube – DMT – The Spirit Molecule Documentary 1/5
I also would like to hear you views on reincarnation, which in Tibetan Buddhism is beleived to occur 49 days after death. The human pineal gland also becomes visible in the developing fetus at 49 days, after conception. just a coincidence maybe?
I have also read a lot about the famous american psycic Edgar Cayce, I advise you guys to look him up on wiki; Edgar Cayce – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
From there I moved onto reading about Atlantis, the city of super intelligent people. I found that apprently The Ancient Egyptians were the ansestors of the Atlanteans. The Ancient Egyptians seemed to know a lot about reincarnation and the pineal gland, showing the pineal gland (third eye) in hieroglyphs on the walls of Pharohs tombs.
What do you guys reckon? I know there will never be any concrete scientific evidence for the existence or non-eistence of the afterlife or the soul. At least not in my lifetime. But it is something I cannot stop thinking about until I come to my own personal conclusion. Perhaps your views will help.
@extraslim 441832 wrote:
lol good point I think my brain may be shutting down :crazy:
Nooo, keep it open mate!
@extraslim 441832 wrote:
lol good point I think my brain may be shutting down :crazy:
:laugh_at:
have you tried a proper dose of dmt OP? it’s the most healing thing i’ve ever experienced, still gotta try ayahuasca.
Well i’ll open the debate even more by saying this : i have been a staunch believer that our imagination stems from our brain and that our brain being organic is bound to die..thus the vehicule for our imagination when it dies will have whatever it carries, die with it. For me it’s common sense until this happened : my bro rung me up at some very unusual time to tell me this : his girlfriend has been having “visions” / dreams of my best friend (RIP) who through her is trying to communicate to me. Now there was no way she knew him as I my bro would have never been talking to her about him or would have given any details…certainly as he hardly knew him anyway. My bro was dead serious and this has since rattled my beliefs…. as a previous poster has said : there are plenty of experiences to be had which may modify your perceptions/beliefs.. not to mention drugs (DMT/LSD…) who have the ability to give your more insight. I am sure that the day i’ll be ready to try these drugs (as well as having met new ppl)…. my perception of things will have changed, or so i hope…
This is a debate which will always be “work in process” anyway, so there is only one sure thing to be said : we still hardly know anything at all!!! lol
@extraslim 441658 wrote:
PPS everything is not infinite, not everything is possible and we know a lot of things for certain about the universe.
The more we discover about existence the more it seems like infinity exists. The concept appears everywhere in mathematics, it even exists physically in our universe (singularities), and we are finding out that the structure that is mathematics has no limit to its complexity, we will never ‘reach the end’ of what we can study.
Philosophically speaking infinity is growing as a concept, infinity is just that thing that people labelled God and gave a personality. Either nothing can exist or infinity can exist, for somewhere in between would be absurd because something outside of existence would have to define what will and will not exist. Some scientists and philosophers are even arguing that we are literally mathematics, the physical realm is just a pocket in that structure and everything we study maps perfectly to that structure.
We have a good understanding of our universe but we are starting to find out we are one of infinite universes with infinite variety, evidence is thin on the ground at the moment (but still there) but the current grand unified theories scientists are working on scream out that our universe is not alone
The idea that our universe is all that there is and ever has been is not only a minority opinion scientifically speaking but is philosophically absurd, existence is eternal and infinite, even if we can only ever experience a finite slice of it ourselves.
@shaneholdin 441626 wrote:
I cant stand the idea, that upon death, I will cease to exist, which is the opinion of some people I have spoken to.
I find it extremely depressing to think that it would be true. How can I just no longer exist? my conciousness zapped away into nothing.
not read the whole thred (as a bit drunk) so it may have already been posted
have you thought about existential theories? one of my mates has recently started (private courtsey of a tax rebate) existential therapy and is finding it not only enlightening but really helpful – he has had quite a massive thing about dying
I never thought of my after life, ever since. But this past days I did some deep thinking. Of what will be my destiny if ever I will die. I just relate this after I read many epic stories with my ancestor.
on the dead, and on if their making themself known to you, in what ever way, if they smoked they would like some tobaco
@manaman 442555 wrote:
on the dead, and on if their making themself known to you, in what ever way, if they smoked they would like some tobaco
riiiiight
🙂
@Clusterfrog 442395 wrote:
The more we discover about existence the more it seems like infinity exists. The concept appears everywhere in mathematics, it even exists physically in our universe (singularities), and we are finding out that the structure that is mathematics has no limit to its complexity, we will never ‘reach the end’ of what we can study.
Philosophically speaking infinity is growing as a concept, infinity is just that thing that people labelled God and gave a personality. Either nothing can exist or infinity can exist, for somewhere in between would be absurd because something outside of existence would have to define what will and will not exist. Some scientists and philosophers are even arguing that we are literally mathematics, the physical realm is just a pocket in that structure and everything we study maps perfectly to that structure.
We have a good understanding of our universe but we are starting to find out we are one of infinite universes with infinite variety, evidence is thin on the ground at the moment (but still there) but the current grand unified theories scientists are working on scream out that our universe is not alone
The idea that our universe is all that there is and ever has been is not only a minority opinion scientifically speaking but is philosophically absurd, existence is eternal and infinite, even if we can only ever experience a finite slice of it ourselves.
My point was just that there is only a finite amount of cake in the larder really not that the concept of infinity wasn’t possible.
ps if anyone does however find an infinite supply of cake, please get in contact ASAP, I will bring napkins and tea.
we probably know less than 1% about our universe, in fact we haven’t been farther than our own moon. For now most of what we know is based on theory and ideology. To completely deny something we cannot prove or disprove would be senseless.
@p0ly 441633 wrote:
i just come to the conclusion everything is infinite.
Everything is infinite and there is only infinity
@schwag 464568 wrote:
we probably know less than 1% about our universe, in fact we haven’t been farther than our own moon. For now most of what we know is based on theory and ideology. To completely deny something we cannot prove or disprove would be senseless.
As a species we know fuck all about anything
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