On equality of majorities and minorities! raaa Mi moramo u Jugoslaviji na primer pokazati, da ne može biti manjine i veèine. Socializam manjinu i veèinu odbacuje. On traži ravnopravnost izmeðu manjine i veèine, a onda nema ni veèine ni manjine, nego ima jedan narod - proizvoðaè, radni èovek - socialistièki èovek.
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Chomsky on Foriegn Policy, Terror and the alternatives quite a long article, but worth the read for anyone with five minutes to spare and an interest in peace :wink:
The US and the UK perpetuate self-serving, hypocritical foreign policies which will continue to be rejected by the Muslim world.
TERROR IS A term that rightly arouses strong emotions and deep concerns. The primary concern should, naturally, be to take measures to alleviate the threat. To proceed in a serious way, we have to establish some guidelines. Here are a few simple ones:
1. Facts matter, even if we do not like them.
2. Elementary moral principles matter, even if they have consequences that we would prefer not to face.
3. Relative clarity matters. We should seek enough clarity at least to distinguish 'terror' from two notions that lie uneasily at its borders: aggression and legitimate resistance.
If we accept these guidelines, there are quite constructive ways to deal with the problems of terrorism. Let's turn to the "War on Terror". Since facts matter, it matters that the war was not declared by George W. Bush on 9/11, but by the Reagan administration twenty years earlier. The administration came into office declaring that their foreign policy would confront what Reagan called "the evil scourge of terrorism", a plague spread by "depraved opponents of civilisation itself". The campaign was directed to a particularly virulent form of the plague: state-directed international terrorism. The main focus was Central America and the Middle East, but it reached to southern Africa and South-East Asia and beyond.
A second fact is that the war was declared and implemented by pretty much the same people who are conducting the re-declared war on terrorism. During the first phase of the War on Terror, Donald Rumsfeld was Reagan's special representative to the Middle East. There, his main task was to establish close relations with Saddam Hussein so that the US could provide him with large-scale aid, including means to develop weapons of mass destruction (WMD), continuing long after the huge atrocities against the Kurds and the end of the war with Iran. The official purpose, not concealed, was the view of Washington and its allies Britain and Saudi Arabia that "whatever the sins of the Iraqi leader, he offered the West and the region a better hope for his country's stability than did those who have suffered his repression" - as discussed by New York Times Middle East correspondent Alan Cowell, describing Washington's judgement as George Bush senior, authorised Saddam Hussein to crush the Shi'ite rebellion in 1991, which probably would have overthrown the tyrant.
LET'S TURN TO the second of the guidelines: elementary moral principles matter. One example, of critical importance today, is the Nuremberg Tribunal. In sentencing Nazi war criminals, Justice Robert Jackson, Chief of Counsel for the United States, spoke eloquently, and memorably, on the principle of universality. "If certain acts of violation of treaties are crimes," he said, "they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us ... We must never forget that the record on which we judge these defendants is the record on which history will judge us tomorrow. To pass these defendants a poisoned chalice is to put it to our own lips as well."
That is a clear and honourable statement of the principle of universality. But the judgment at Nuremberg itself crucially violated this principle. The Tribunal had to define 'war crime' and 'crimes against humanity'. It crafted these definitions very carefully so that crimes were criminal only if they were not committed by the Allies. Urban bombing of civilian concentrations was excluded, because the Allies carried it out more barbarically than the Nazis. The self-exemption of the powerful from international law and elementary moral principle goes far beyond this illustration, and reaches to just about every aspect of the two phases of the War on Terror.
We might want to bear this in mind when we read George W. Bush's impassioned pronouncement that "the United States makes no distinction between those who commit acts of terror and those who support them, because they're equally as guilty of murder," and that "the civilised world must hold those regimes to account." Bush's remarks pose a dilemma. Either the US is part of the civilised world, and must therefore send the US air force to bomb Washington; or it declares itself to be outside the civilised world. The logic is impeccable, but fortunately, logic has been dispatched as deeply into the memory hole as moral truisms.
But let us now adopt prevailing Western hypocrisy and cynicism, and keep to the operative definition of 'terror'. It is the same as the official definitions, but with the Nuremberg exception: admissible terror is your terror; ours is exempt.
THE INVASION OF Iraq is perhaps the most glaring example of the low priority assigned by US/UK leaders to the threat of terror. Washington planners had been advised, even by their own intelligence agencies, that the invasion was likely to increase the risk of terror. And it did. The National Intelligence Council reported a year ago that "Iraq and other possible conflicts in the future could provide recruitment, training grounds, technical skills and language proficiency for a new class of terrorists who are 'professionalised' and for whom political violence becomes an end in itself." A high-level government review of the War on Terror two years after the invasion focused on how to deal with the rise of a new generation of terrorists, schooled in Iraq. Top government officials are increasingly turning their attention to anticipate what one called "the bleed out" of hundreds or thousands of Iraq-trained jihadists back to their home countries throughout the Middle East and Western Europe. "It's a new piece of a new equation," a former senior Bush administration official said. "If you don't know who they are in Iraq, how are you going to locate them in Istanbul or London?"
Once again we find very easily a way to reduce the threat of terror: stop acting in ways that enhance the threat. Though enhancement of the threat of terror and proliferation was anticipated, the invasion did so even in unanticipated ways. It is common to say that no Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) were found in Iraq after an exhaustive search. That is not quite accurate, however. There were stores of WMD in Iraq: namely, those produced in the 1980s, thanks to aid provided by the US and Britain, along with others. These sites had been secured by UN inspectors, who were dismantling the weapons. But the inspectors were dismissed by the invaders and the sites were left unguarded. The inspectors nevertheless continued to carry out their work using satellite imagery. They discovered sophisticated massive looting of these installations in over 100 sites, including equipment for producing solid and liquid propellant missiles, biotoxins and other materials usable for chemical and biological weapons, and high-precision equipment capable of making parts for nuclear and chemical weapons and missiles. A Jordanian journalist was informed by officials in charge of the Jordan-Iraq border that after US-UK forces took over, radioactive materials were detected in one in every eight trucks crossing to Jordan, destination unknown.
If reducing the threat of terror were a high priority for Washington or London, as it certainly should be, there would be ways to proceed - even apart from the unmentionable idea of withdrawing participation. The first step, plainly, is to try to understand its roots. With regard to Islamic terror, there is a broad consensus among intelligence agencies and researchers. They identify two categories: the jihadis, who regard themselves as a vanguard, and their audience, who may reject terror but nevertheless regard their cause as just. A serious counter-terror campaign would therefore begin by considering the grievances and, where appropriate, addressing them, without the threat of terror. There is broad agreement among specialists that al-Qaeda-style terror is today less a product of Islamic fundamentalism than of a simple strategic goal: to compel the United States and its Western allies to withdraw combat forces from the Arabian Peninsula and other Muslim countries.
In the most extensive scholarly inquiry into the jihadi phenomenon, Fawaz Gerges concludes that after 9/11, "the dominant response to Al Qaeda in the Muslim world was very hostile," specifically among the jihadis, who regarded it as a dangerous extremist fringe. Instead of recognising that opposition to al-Qaeda offered Washington "the most effective way to drive a nail into its coffin" by finding "intelligent means to nourish and support the internal forces that were opposed to militant ideologies like the bin Laden network", Gerges writes, the Bush administration did exactly what bin Laden hoped it would do: resort to violence, particularly in the invasion of Iraq. The achievements of Bush administration planners in inspiring Islamic radicalism and terror, and joining Osama bin Laden in creating a "clash of civilisations", are quite impressive.
A PENTAGON ADVISORY Panel concluded a year ago that "Muslims do not 'hate our freedom', but rather they hate our policies," adding that "when American public diplomacy talks about bringing democracy to Islamic societies, this is seen as no more than self-serving hypocrisy."
There are ways to deal constructively with the threat of terror, though not those preferred by "bin Laden's indispensable ally", or those who try to avoid the real world by striking heroic poses about Islamo-fascism, or who simply claim that no proposals are made when there are quite straightforward proposals that they do not like. The constructive ways have to begin with an honest look in the mirror: never an easy task; always a necessary one.
Extracts from the Amnesty International Annual Lecture hosted by Trinity College Dublin, delivered by Noam Chomsky at Shelbourne Hall, the Royal Dublin Society, Dublin, on 18th January 2006.
Noam Chomsky is author of Imperial Ambitions: Conversations on the Post-9/11 World.
http://www.resurgence.org/2006/chomsky237.htm
LONDON FREE PARTY: Meet Up on Sat 23.09.06. Hi party people, got a LONDON based FREE PARTY that me and some friends have put together and wanted to spread the good word, drop us a line back on this thread as it'd be great to hear from you if you live in the area or fancy coming down:
Sat 23 Sept 06
[socialise]
Cosmo Bar | 50-54 Clerkenwell Road, London, EC1 5PS.
FREE entry | 9pm – 3am
[socialise] present a FREE night of quality underground house in what can only be described as a real party for real party people!
Split over two levels, the ground floor offers intimate seating for lounging if you are feeling a little wasted while downstairs in the basement things get messy with bumpy, deep, tech and electro house at this underground yet intimate party venue.
DJ’s: Simon Page | Paul KC | Robin EE | Tony Nunn | Jamie Vatish | Drew Ferrie
TUBE: Farringdon (Circle line)
DRESS: Jeans & trainers welcome
INFO: 07941 951 782
EMAIL: simon@socialisehere.com
WEB: www.socialisehere.com
MUSIC: Deep | Tech | Electro
Big commercial licensed clubs "safer" – O RLY? This wasn't just a street brawl- it started in a licensed premises; but one of our towns bigger clubs... it led to many injuries...
So why didn't this club get a closure order? Why only the smaller venues?
Why does my mate's night get attention when there has only ever been one person ejected for bad behaviour a year ago who went peacefully?
Are cops/council frightened of being sued for loss of revenue or something?
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A YOUNG man was fighting for his life in hospital today after a street brawl in Ipswich.
The man, who is believed to be from Claydon and aged around 20, is currently in the intensive treatment unit at Addenbrooke's Hospital with serious injuries.
A spokeswoman for Ipswich police said a fight is thought to have broken out in the toilets at Fire and Ice, in Tacket Street, on Saturday evening between two groups.
That later continued outside The Old Rep, in Tower Street leaving several people in need of hospital treatment.
She said the area would have been busy at the time and there were likely to be several witnesses to the incident who she urged to contact police.
Several people are thought to have needed hospital treatment although it is unclear how many were involved in the disturbance.
Police were called to the scene at 11.30pm and at least two ambulances are thought to have attended.
A spokeswoman for the East of England Ambulance Service Trust said an ambulance was called to a public house in Tavern Street about 11.35pm after reports a man was unconscious.
A man has been arrested on suspicion of committing grievous bodily harm in relation to the incident.
The 20-year-old, from Ipswich, has been released on police bail until September 26, pending further inquiries.
Anyone with information about the incident should call Dc Ann Baker at Ipswich CID on 01473 613500 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555111.
Weblink: *
Did you witness the incident? Do you know who was involved? Call The Evening Star newsdesk on 01473 324788 or e-mail: starnews@eveningstar.co.uk.
People From T.V at Raves Met her before but saw Gemma, From brat camp (1st one i think) in the coven on saturday n she woz looking FINE.
Think she woz on the brat camp review few months back.
Seen any famous headz at raves??123
Void Network/Keno Diktuo/Man With No Name Live in Polutechnioupoli AthensSat7oct2006 Void Network (Theory, Outopia, Empathy, Ephemeral Arts)
Keno Diktuo proudly presents :
MAN WITH NO NAME Live Free Concert in Athens
POLUTEXNIOUPOLI Saturday 7 October 2006
entrance from Katexaki rd.
starts 10.30 p.m.
Two stages high quality event/ squated open air valley of university campus / cultural activism/
free entrance for the benefit of Underground Resistance
Stage1 :
MAN WITH NO NAME (Live P.A.)
Stavros Svmix
Iraklis Mindphaser
Dimitris Nats
special support by Natural High Collective
Stage2/Psychedelic Ambient,Electro Dub, Roots Reggae Dub :
Crystal Zero
Lady Sissy Stardust
Booshman Tribe
d.j. Nikitas
d.j. Nesko
Mista Operator
The World that is alive in our Dreams is much more Real than the "real" World
Fight for the Liberation of All Beings from Ignorance, Suffering and Exploitation
homepage : www.voidnetworksociety.org
blog for news about the events and specials: http://voidnetwork.blogspot.com
contact : voidinternational@gmail.com
= 09/09 = MEGA PEACEFUL PROTEST = 09/09 = AS YOU WELL KNOW THERE WAS A RIOT ON THE ESSEX / CAMBRIDGESHIRE BORDER IN GREAT CHESTERFORD OVER AUGUST BANK HOLIDAY WEEKEND WHEN SEVERAL HUNDRED RIOT POLICE MOVED IN TO SHUT DOWN THE FESTIVAL ON SATURDAY AFTERNOON/EVENING. THERE WAS NO COMMUNICATION MADE BY THE POLICE TO THE ORGANISERS OR PEOPLE AT THE VENUE. THE ONLY ANNOUNCEMENTS MADE WERE BY A HELICOPTER WHICH IS FAIRLY HARD TO HEAR WHEN YOU HAVE A SOUND SYSTEM PLAYING LOUD MUSIC IN FRONT OF YOU.
ALL SOUND SYSTEM'S WERE SEIZED, RIG VANS & AUDIO EQUIPMENT SMASHED TO PIECES BY RIOT POLICE. RIG OWNERS PERSONAL POSSESSIONS WERE ALSO SEIZED. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TOLD THE RIGS WILL NOT BE RETURNED UNTIL THE CASE HAS GONE TO COURT WHICH COULD BE YEARS.
A LARGE NUMBER OF PARTY PEOPLE WERE INJURED AND SOME ARE STILL IN HOSPITAL TO THIS DAY. A GIRL RECEIVED A VERY SERIOUS NECK INJURY WHERE SHE WAS ASLEEP IN HER TENT AND RIOT POLICE PURPOSLELY TRAMPLED OVER IT. ONE PERSON MAY HAVE LOST THE SIGHT IN HIS EYE FROM WHERE A POLICE OFFICER BATTERED HIM AROUND THE HEAD WITH A BATTON FOR NO REASON, CS GAS WAS SPRAYED INTO CROWDS OF PEOPLE, IT WAS ALSO SPRAYED ON YOUNG GIRLS, CHILDREN UNDER THE AGE OF 13. POLICE DOGS WERE ALLOWED TO ATTACK GIRLS, CHILDREN AND OTHER PEOPLE. AND MANY MANY OTHERS HAVE CUTS AND BRUISES FROM THIS AWFUL CASE OF POLICE BRUTALITY.
THIS HAS TO BE THE WORST CASE OF POLICE BRUTALITY IN THE RAVE SCENE SINCE THE 1990'S AND WE ARE NOT PREPARED TO SIT BY AND ACCEPT THAT THIS IS NORMAL BEHAVIOUR.
SO IF YOU BELEIVE YOU WERE MISTREATED BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PAID TO SERVE AND PROTECT THE PUBLIC THEN COME TO THE PROTEST OUTSIDE HARLOW POLICE STATION AT 2PM ON SATURDAY TO SHOW YOUR SUPPORT AND HELP US FIGHT FOR THE RIGHT TO PARTY.
IF YOU WERE HIT BY A POLICE OFFICER OR SUSTAINED AN INJURY OR HAD YOUR PROPERTY DAMAGED AND DONT WANT TO SEE THINGS LIKE THIS BECOMING A REGULAR OCCURANCE THEN COME AND STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU BELEIVE IN.
THIS MUST BE A PEACEFUL PROTEST IF WE ARE TO BE HEARD AND LISTENED TO. NO MISSILES TO BE THROWN. THERE WILL BE PRESS FROM SEVERAL NEWSPAPERS PRESENT SO THIS IS OUR CHANCE TO GET OUR SIDE OF THE STORY ACROSS, THE TRUTH.
ADDRESS:
HARLOW POLICE STATION.
POST CODE: CM2 6DA
2.PM
ESSEX.
PLEASE BRING BRING CAMERAS AND PHOTOS OF INJURIES AND PREHAPS AN ACCOUNT OF YOUR VERSION OF HOW YOU SUSTAINED YOUR INJURY.
= THANKYOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT =
= SEE YOU THERE =
= UNiTED SOUNDS =
UK : SW : Cop sacked for dogging on duty! :you_crazy
Pc sacked for 'dogging' on duty
A police officer from Bristol has been sacked after he allegedly went "dogging" while on duty.
A police tribunal was told Pc Darren Lumber, 35, joined in with a man and a woman as they had sex in a car park at Sand Point, near Weston-super-Mare.
A senior officer branded his behaviour "disgraceful" at a disciplinary hearing on Tuesday.
Mr Lumber said he had "strongly denied this allegation from the start" and that he was appealing the decision.
Mr Lumber, who was a beat manager in Kewstoke, was investigated after a fellow member of staff became concerned about his behaviour.
The alleged incident took place last December.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/england/bristol/5345518.stm
VW GEARBOX WANTED a friend is in dire need of a five speed box for a k reg 1.8 golf driver. The gearbox code is ATH if anyone can help get in touch. I can collect
UK/US : LDN(SE)/NJ : loads of guns seized by cops From todays Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/gun/Story/0,,1871320,00.html
"SE Londonistan" (I always think Dartford, Bexleyheath, Eltham etc are SE London rather than Kent) has always had a gun culture (it was starting when I was last there in 1990-1992) but what is changing now is how quick lads are to get and use a gun even over something trivial..
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Police recovered hundreds of guns and arrested a 55-year-old man on suspicion of supplying firearms in three raids early this morning.The raids were part of an intelligence-led operation to tackle the supply of guns to criminals in London.
The pump-action shotguns and semi-automatic and automatic weapons were found at properties in Dartford, Kent. An arms-smuggling ring with links to the US was believed to have brought the guns into the country.
Officers from the Metropolitan police's Operation Trident team, set up to target gun crime in London's black communities, carried out the raids.
A statement from the Met said US police were carrying out simultaneous operations in New Jersey.
At 6am about 30 officers executed search warrants at two residential properties and one business address.
The cache was discovered at one of the residential addresses, which police believe was being used to sell firearms.
Searches were expected to continue throughout the day. The operation, codenamed Mokpo, was launched 18 months ago after a spate of shootings in north London involving rival gangs.
Detective Chief Superintendent Kevin Davis, from Operation Trident, said: "This operation has resulted in hundreds of guns being taken out of circulation and has potentially prevented a number of serious injuries or even deaths occurring on the streets of London.
"It is impossible to overestimate the misery and fear these weapons could have brought if they had got into the hands of criminals. Today's seizure demonstrates Trident's determination not only to target the gunmen but also tackle those who are responsible for supplying guns in the first place."
2006-9-16 Magik Bullet vs SoS & Retox @ Plymouth
This is going to be the biggest mashup of sounds Plymouth has seen for a while. You know by now that we encompass many different styles of music from electro house, breaks, techno and whatever else gets you dancing...
DJ's
Lettis (SoS)
Brimmz (SoS
Oz (Retox)
Chiface (Retox)
vs
Dam0
Paradigm
Chris W
SoS & Retox been putting on very special parties in random fields in Devon & Cornwall for over 5 years. They have a huge following and are well respected DJ's. We had SoS down back in May and had a huge crowd from all over the place. Check these photos from last time...
dont miss it!
NOAM CHOMSKY + ROBERT TRIVERS [yt]WJe5UmBlxdE[/yt]
The anti-war activist and MIT linguist enters the Seed Salon to discuss deceit with the Rutgers evolutionary biologist.
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