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July 29, 2005 at 12:06 pm #855564Loner20 wrote:c23chtek 2oo5
Highway to Plzen is blocked from 128-136km.
Enjoy the Ride !
And now it will cause traffic jams and disruption, and cost the rest of the people not taking part in the rave thousands of euros which didn’t need to be lost.
The fields legal, why don’t they just let people drive to it?
I can’t believe someone in CZ government actually thinks thats a good idea, its worse than how raves are dealt with in the UK! – it would be like blocking off the M4 at Reading because a rave was happening in South Wales :confused:July 29, 2005 at 6:36 pm #855565
NB: This is from (I think) a state-controlled broadcaster (albeit a good one, of a similar quality to the BBC).
I in Britain (and remaining here this weekend), so I do not know exactly what is going on at the “frontline” (anyone local is welcome to give updates). At least now people know where there is a traffic jam and lots of cops; so perhaps can look at a map and find better ways if they still want to approach the field. There is often more than one access point to a rave venue 😉
Police disperse illegal techno party
Police have ordered techno music enthusiasts blocking a part of the D5 motorway in west Bohemia to leave, preventing the CzechTech music party from happening. Techno fans heading for the village of Mlynec in West Bohemia, where this year’s CzechTek illegal music festival was supposed to take place, on Friday morning blocked a stretch of the motorway with their cars. Many other cars got stuck in the 10-kilometre-long traffic jam. As in past years, the location of the free event had been kept secret up until the last moment. Last year’s CzechTek ended after four days as police dispersed the participants.July 31, 2005 at 12:07 am #855541Anonymous
robocops everywhere, flashballs, water-thrower:no mercy…
get real: this one’s already over…or splitted….July 31, 2005 at 2:14 pm #855579
Just got a text from my friends who are there, apparently there’s gonna be a demo instead now. The cops have been out of order and I think there’s a lot of pissed off party people……..I’ll try and get some more info.July 31, 2005 at 6:43 pm #855542Anonymous
look at that can someone to put that think to news… http://www.policejnistat.cz ( english verision avaliable )
Cops bust up Czechtekk in Czech republic…
Bye allJuly 31, 2005 at 11:43 pm #855586
just see it on the news looked well badJuly 31, 2005 at 11:50 pm #855543AnonymousAugust 1, 2005 at 12:56 pm #855544Anonymous
I have just heard from people who were at Czechtek (including some of the organisers). The police raid was really brutal – several very serious injuries, one death so far (some of the inured may not make it), the cops smashed the windows of vans and ripped open tents where people were hiding so they could throw tear gas grenades in there… and this was a LEGAL festival! The cops apparently forged a document saying that the owner of the land had withdrawn his permission, and used it as an excuse to attack (they looked pretty stupid when the guy appeared on TV saying it was a forgery). What is more, they tried to stop ambulances getting into the site – this was an attack aimed at maiming and killing, not dispersing people. And why weren’t they wearing their ID numbers?
There is quite a campaign getting underway in Prague to take the CZ police / government to the European Court and/or International Court of Human Rights. Anyone from the UK who was there and fancies helping spread the scandal internationally, get in touch: firstname.lastname@example.org.
DanAugust 1, 2005 at 4:26 pm #855545Anonymous
info pics and links
http://www.indymedia.orgAugust 1, 2005 at 6:18 pm #855546Anonymous
Prague – Eighty people were injured when more than 1 000 riot police stormed a techno party in the Czech Republic to break up the event, the Czech news agency CTK reported on Sunday.
Forty-five of the injured were police officers, of whom five were seriously hurt, and 35 were people attending the CzechTek event in the village of Mlynec in the west of the country, close to the German border.
CzechTek organisers insisted that they had obtained the proper permission to stage the event, but, defending the action, police said the party-goers had damaged private property.
Police intervened just 20 minutes after the techno party started, reported CTK. Police set up blockades and closed off roads around the site to stop more people attending.
Czech television station TV Nova reported that people were refusing to leave the site and were planning to file criminal complaints against the government and the police for infringing on their human rights.
Around 1 000 of the 5 000 people who had attended the event were still on site early on Sunday, CTK reported.
Police action against CzechTek
Czech police used water cannons and tear gas Saturday to disperse some 5,000 fans from the Czech Republic and other European countries.
Several thousands techno music fans have gathered in the Czech capital to protest what they call brutal and unjustified police action against their annual music gathering known as the CzechTek party a day earlier.
Waving placard, which read “Techno isn’t terrorism,” “Techno isn’t crime,” or “Law was on our side” the crowd was dancing to the beat of drums and chanting “shame” and “police state” during the protest held outside the Interior Ministry building in Prague.
The demonstrators held Prime Minister Jiri Paroubek and Interior Minister Frantisek Bublan responsible and called on them to resign.
Bublan told Czech radio Sunday that the police action was necessary.
Czech police used water cannons and tear gas Saturday to disperse some 5,000 fans from the Czech Republic and other European countries who arrived at the festival of electronic dance music, which this year was held in a meadow in Mlynec, a village about 130 kilometres (80 miles) west of Prague.August 2, 2005 at 6:59 pm #855582
F*ck was crule :blackeye:August 2, 2005 at 7:20 pm #855566
what sort of “government” is going on in CZ?
this whole thing is a complete fucking shambles – even in other EU countries like France, Britain, Germany where there are more restrictions against raves, you do not often see such violence… .
looking at the news reports, it does not make sense that the Prime Minister and Interior minister can order the Police service to do something the President does not agree with?
Essentially this means government and society is divided into factions working against each other. in other words a country at civil war – something which is a very serious matter IMO…
another thing I do not understand is if the techno party in 2004 was seen as such a problem, how come the Czech authorities did not go to national and international press and say “this sort of event is no longer tolerated in our country”, and give reasons why this had become the case?
I monitored a lot of english-language Czech media and did not see lots of news reports claiming teknivals were a big problem (unlike here in Britain where landowners, cops, complain about damage , traffic disruption and excessive drug use)
And if the people gathering were “so dangerous” as the politicians claimed, why not try to deter them from getting in the country in the first place, rather than create a situation where thousands of Euros are spent on cops and also a big traffic jam is created for the “normal people?”
When there were “licensing problems”, cops and media were very quiet about this. it almost seems as if the ravers were deliberately lured into a trap 🙁
I am not sure how we should protest this from other countries though.
My immediate thoughts are to boycott all travel to Czech republic (TBH as I am from an ethnic minority I would not feel safe there anyway) – but I fear this would also damage the businesses of good people.
But what else can we do? The European court action is also a good idea, but change must come from within.
It seems that the cops in CZ can operate completely outside the law – to an outsider in the UK CZ comes across as a dangerously divided country where it is still seen acceptable for the Police to launch attacks on minority groups outside even the provision of the law becasue they do not agree with that groups lifestyle.
Such behaviour is not acceptable by the authorities of a modern EU nation.August 3, 2005 at 10:53 am #855547Anonymous
You can read the (translated) reaction from the prime minister
‘Techno fans are not dancing children, but dangerous people’
It was published in Czech daily Lidove NovinyAugust 3, 2005 at 11:40 am #855548Anonymous
predictably enough, the BBC didnt report the actual violence, just why it was “justified” and all their photos just show weird looking folk and no violence either. fucking whitewash.August 3, 2005 at 7:45 pm #855567
sadly I am not sure what we can all do, and if any hope can be drawn from this.
The police action can and should be challenged at EU wide level by the European Court of Human Rights, but the all that may happen is that is some police commanders get a telling off for using an excessive level of violence, and that CZ govt is told to sort out laws so these events have proper licenses and paperwork where the venue, start and finish times, approach roads etc are agreed with the cops, council and landowners (but the cops can still break up unlicensed gatherings).
It looks like CZ may be planning this already.
Another issue is – what do the rest of the “non-ravers” think of Czechtek? I do not know how many ravers there are in CZ as opposed to “normal people” but they may be a minority.. Was there a problem with CZ tek where locals were complaining about noise, litter and disruption, and they felt the organisers ignored their complaints?
Do many people in CZ believe or agree with what the Prime Minister says that the ravers are dangerous, even terrorists?
Here in Britain even Tony Blair does not say such things (although the previous government did). Many UK ravers aren’t that political nowadays – and I wouldn’t call them “anarchists”. Most are normal people with jobs, their only crime is some take drugs and they all like loud music. They are just seen as a noisy nuisance in many areas, but not a real danger to society. Otherwise they would have all been arrested by the anti-terrorist squads along with the Muslim militants.
Unfortunately other EU countries also regularly deploy their territorial support group police – or “riot cops” – to stop raves and other gatherings of people.
However, these countries try to avoid such a situation where it looks like different politicans in the same government are all doing different things, and they do try to offer “proper channels” for people to have legal festivals, even if some of the conditions imposed on those who hold events are onerous and overly bureaucratic.
They do not (at least today) give organisers the impression that they are holding a “legal” event and then block up the roads and send in armoured police units!
But it seems all I can do as an outsider in another EU country, is tell my family and friends “CZ is not a safe country to travel to” as their cops attack people just for holding a harmless festival and the government seems to not know what it is doing.
here is the only bit of hope I can find in the report
According to a poll by the SC&C polling institute for the Mlada fronta Dnes (Mfd) daily, 70% surveyed said the police action was too tough. Some 44% believed it was necessary, while the same number disagreed.
so at least even though CZ appears divided about whether the festival should have been stopped, it seems a majority feel the action take to stop the festival was excessive…..
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