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  • cathdreadhead wrote:
    read a book recently called ‘The art of dreaming’ by Carlos Castenada which explains about dreaming within dreams and allowing your mind to know when u are dreaming and being able to manipulate your own dreams. Was fascinating

    Sounds interesting, does it work?

    tarifa wrote:
    Sounds interesting, does it work?

    i didnt attempt any of it, cos in the book, he experiences dangerous beings in different worlds where they can trap you in their world. Explains about people being trapped by the ‘organic beings.’ Sounded a bit scary to me :hopeless:

    I would prefer to just sleep without trying any of the explorations into other worlds! Sounds like they are very difficult to do

    cathdreadhead wrote:
    i didnt attempt any of it, cos in the book, he experiences dangerous beings in different worlds where they can trap you in their world. Explains about people being trapped by the ‘organic beings.’ Sounded a bit scary to me :hopeless:

    jesus christ! sod that!

    DREAMTIME AND DREAMING

    Aboriginals believe in two forms of time. Two parallel streams of activity. One is the daily objective activity … The other is an infinite spiritual cycle called the “dreamtime,” more real than reality itself. Whatever happens in the dreamtime establishes the values, symbols, and laws of Aboriginal society. Some people of unusual spiritual powers have contact with the dreamtime.

    ‘Dreaming’ is also often used to refer to an individual’s or group’s set of beliefs or spirituality. For instance, an Indigenous Australian might say that they have Kangaroo Dreaming, or Shark Dreaming, or Honey Ant Dreaming, or any combination of Dreamings pertinent to their ‘country’. However, many Indigenous Australians also refer to the creation time as ‘The Dreaming’.

    Dreaming stories vary throughout Australia and there are different versions on the same theme. For example the story of how the birds got their colours is different in New South Wales and in Western Australia. Stories cover many themes and topics, as there are stories about creation of sacred places, landforms, people, animals and plants, law and custom. It is a complex network of knowledge, faith and practices that derive from stories of creation, and which pervades and informs all spiritual and physical aspects of indigenous Australian’s life.
    They believe that every person in an essential way exists eternally in the Dreaming. This eternal part existed before the life of the individual begins, and continues to exist when the life of the individual ends. Both before and after life, it is believed that this spirit-child exists in the Dreaming and is only initiated into life by being born through a mother. The spirit of the child is culturally understood to enter the developing foetus during the 5th month of pregnancy. When the mother felt the child move in the womb for the first time, it was thought that this was the work of the spirit of the land in which the mother then stood. Upon birth the child was considered to be a special custodian of that part of their country and taught of the stories and songlines of that place. As Wolf (1994: p.14) states: “A black ‘fella’ may regard his totem or the place from which his spirit came as his Dreaming. He may also regard tribal law as his Dreaming.”

    Traditional Australian indigenous peoples, embrace all phenomena and life as part of a vast and complex system-reticulum of relationships which can be traced directly back to the ancestral Totemic Spirit Beings of The Dreaming. This structure of relations, including food taboos, was important to the maintenance of the biological diversity of the indigenous environment and may have contributed to the prevention of overhunting of particular species.

    The Dreaming, Tribal Law & Songlines

    The Dreaming establishes the structures of society, the rules for social behaviour and the ceremonies performed in order to ensure continuity of life and land. The Dreaming governs the laws of community, cultural lore and how peoples are required to behave in community. The condition that is The Dreaming is met when peoples live according to law, and live the lore: perpetuating initiations and Dreaming transmissions or lineages, singing the songs, dancing the dances, telling the stories, painting the Songlines and Dreamings.

    The creation was believed to be the work of culture heroes that in the creative epoch travelled across a formless land, creating sacred sites and significant places of interest in their travels. In this way songlines were established, some of which could travel right across Australia, through as many as six to ten different language groupings. The songs and dances of a particular songline were kept alive and frequently performed at large gatherings, organised in good seasons.

    In the Aboriginal world view, every event leaves a record in the land. Everything in the natural world is a result of the actions of the archetypal beings, beings whose actions created the world. Whilst Europeans consider these cultural ancestors to be metaphysical many Aboriginal people still believe in their literal existence. The meaning and significance of particular places and creatures is wedded to their origin in the Dreaming, and certain places have a particular potency, which the Aborigines call its dreaming. In this dreaming resides the sacredness of the earth. For example in Perth, the Noongar believe that the Darling Scarp is said to represent the body of a Wagyl – a snakelike being that meandered over the land creating rivers, waterways and lakes. It is taught that the Wagyl created the Swan River.

    In one version (there are many Aboriginal cultures) Altjira was the god of the Dreamtime; he created the Earth and then retired as the Dreamtime vanished. Alternative names for Aktjira in other Australian languages include Alchera (Arrernte), Alcheringa, Mura-mura (Dieri), and Tjukurpa (Pitjantjatjara).

    The dreaming and travelling trails of the Spirit Beings are the songlines (or “Yiri” in the Walpiri language). The signs of the Spirit Beings may be of spiritual essence, physical remains such as petrosomatoglyphs of body impressions or footprints, amongst natural and elemental simulacrae. To cite an example, the Yarralin people of the Victoria River Valley venerate the spirit Walujapi as the Dreaming Spirit of the black-headed python. Walujapi carved a snakelike track along a cliff-face and deposited an impression of her buttocks when she sat establishing camp. Both these dreaming signs are currently discernable.

    ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamtime_(mythology)

    i get two regular recurring dreams, one always involves my teeth just dropping out and the other one I will be in a situation where i want to hit someone but i become paralysed and am unable to.

    Am i a mental?:you_crazy

    not had the dream about the teeth before but i used to have loads of dreams about fighting. but it would be like trying to punch through water or treacle or my punch wouldnt connect. also have loads of dreams about getting really wrecked and about being at various different free parties! think the getting wrecked dreams aren’t a good sign really… really enjoy the free party ones tho!

    anyone had drug related dreams?

    i dreamt i went shopping on acid, there were brightly coloured clothes everywhere and a soundsystem in the shop raaa

    the rev wrote:
    i get two regular recurring dreams, one always involves my teeth just dropping out and the other one I will be in a situation where i want to hit someone but i become paralysed and am unable to.

    Am i a mental?:you_crazy

    :laugh_at::laugh_at:do you really want us to answer that babe? :love:

    cathdreadhead wrote:
    anyone had drug related dreams?

    i dreamt i went shopping on acid, there were brightly coloured clothes everywhere and a soundsystem in the shop raaa

    all the time. get dreams that im running around finding then hiding pills, taking loads of coke. sometimes i wake up feeling really spun out takes me a moment to realise that it was a dream and that im not totally wasted!

    cathdreadhead wrote:
    anyone had drug related dreams?

    i dreamt i went shopping on acid, there were brightly coloured clothes everywhere and a soundsystem in the shop raaa

    had a wierd dream that i figured was me being completely tripped out on DMT or summat, see earlier post :crazy_diz

    the rev wrote:
    i get two regular recurring dreams, one always involves my teeth just dropping out and the other one I will be in a situation where i want to hit someone but i become paralysed and am unable to.

    Am i a mental?:you_crazy

    i have quite a load where i try and shoot someone and the bullet falls out the end, i guess this means im infertile

    raaa

    djprocess…. really enjoy the free party ones tho!

    Yer,

    Rock oN with those Free Party Dreams!!!

    (at least the Police dont physicaly stop em)

    :bounce_fl freedom !!!

    spiderman, wank

    I had an amazing dream the other day, about beeing in a bath with these three Blonde women, when i woke up, i was acturly Wet !

    As a child, I was always a bit paranoid, seeming as both me parents were activists.

    I use to find it realy hard to get to sleep some nights, it was as if there was a type of high pitch sqeek, and a waxing and waning and kind of disapating echoes of sound.

    It use to frighten me a bit. I felt as though my mind was being controled by some kind of Autharity trying to Brain wash me…

    Dont no if it was though, this was during Thatcherisam.

    It may just have been me with a high temperiture! Though strangly enough, i felt it a little bit the other day, though not as intense as i use to sufferd with it, as a child.

    Mabe its just got somthing to do with the Age of Aquaries and all those Radiographic phrequencies, out of our dayley perception, as I have only experienced it when contemplaiting rest and relaxation, bethore sleep.

    Though there is everdance that such technologies for brain washing, influencing, reading and or controling peoples thougts does exsit.

    check out;

    http://www.rhfweb.com/

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