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Etizolam is my weapon of choice as far as RC Benzos go. Again though mate, you can’t be trying (or seem) to be selling them on the public forum

@Tryptameanie 566123 wrote:

While nothing has been mention by the (UK) government of classifying etizolam, some vendors sought legal advice and based on that, sold off the remainder of stock at a large discount. While there has been no mention that I’m aware of about classifying etizolam, it seems a few vendors were given the same legal advice and have followed suit in getting rid of their stocks of etizolam, but it seems they have another 2 new benzos coming soon but probab;y not before the new TCDOs have been signed. I find it strange that even though benzos are potentially addictive they are only banning one out of around 5/6.. To ban only one of a whole plethora of RC benzos seems ludicrous.

Dude, tea is potentially addictive, I don’t think the government are gonna ban that anytime soon. Just cos something is ‘potentially addictive’ doesn’t mean it deserves to be banned. Personally I think it’s a really good thing etiz is legal and should stay that way,

alot of people I know use it responsibly and seem to be able to control there use pretty well

(not like the drone when that was legal as an example…). Also with with the majority of tight doctors in this country who wouldn’t prescribe anything harder than a relaxation cd to someone complaining of anxiety and insomnia and all these b*llshit ‘herbal remedies’ available behind the counter in the UK to help people sleep/relax without resorting to hitting the booze I think it’s great Etiz is an option. (Has been a god send for me at times), I look at it like valiums etc yeah fair enough prescription only but same goes for dihydrocodeine and oxycodone etc they should remain prescription only where as paracetamol/ibuprofen is available over the counter and so is etizolam and long may that continue IMO!!!!

btw Etizolam is not technically a benzo. 🙂

@Tryptameanie 566836 wrote:

So why ban anything at all then? I didn’t say I wanted it banned, just I can’t see any logic in the way they choose what to ban and what not to ban.

it is a whole confluence of factors that determine what gets banned, probably too complex for anyone to understand without exhausitve analysis or it is completely arbitrary and a sham… probably somewhere in between the two.

Does anyone else agree that despite indications suggest it should carry the same addiction risk as true benzos, it in fact seems to be pretty difficult to become addicted to. I’ve practically tried just to see lol.

According to this: benzo.org.uk : Benzodiazepine Equivalence Table

All these drugs are recommended for short-term use only (2-4 weeks maximum). See 1988 Guidelines.

Half-life: time taken for blood concentration to fall to half its peak value after a single dose. Half-life of active metabolite shown in square brackets. This time may vary considerably between individuals.

These equivalents do not agree with those used by some authors. They are firmly based on clinical experience during switch-over to diazepam at start of withdrawal programs but may vary between individuals.

Market Aim: Although all benzodiazepines have similar actions, they are usually marketed as anxiolytics (a), hypnotics (h) or anticonvulsants (e).

In the UK clobazam (Frisium) and clonazepam (Rivotril) are licensed for use as anti-epileptics only.

These drugs are chemically different from benzodiazepines but have the same effects on the body and act by the same mechanisms.

So the last point is saying they have a different structure but work in exactly the same way, and should be prescribed the same way as they cause the same problems.

There’s this thread on bluelight on it as well:

(benzos) How often can etizolam be used without risk of addiction/habituation? See post 8.

And then this on drugs forum:

As with all drugs in the benzodiazepine class, etizolam is a physically and psychologically addictive substance. Chronic use lasting more than 4 weeks can result in addiction. If the medication is discontinued abruptly after a protracted period of administration a withdrawal syndrome can ensue which might involve excitatory withdrawal symptoms such as anxiety, tremor, insomnia, lack of appetite, panic attacks etc. In rare cases this sudden withdrawal syndrome can even result in a seizures (fit) this can be a life threatening occurrence. Some patients even consider suicide due to the extreme unpleasantness of the withdrawal.

The withdrawal syndrome occurs due to the initial over stimulation of the GABAergic system, this causes desensitization of the GABA receptors and also a decrease in overall GABA production. When the drug is discontinued without using a gradual taper (which is the much preferred option) the central nervous system does not produce adequate stimulation of the GABAergic system. Since the GABAergic system is responsible for modulating the inhibitory transmission of signals – this results in muscles shaking, convulsing and possibly leading to a seizure.

There is evidence however that etizolam is less addictive than other benzodiazepines. Because it has, to some extent, a greater efficacy under conditions of GABAergic deficit, it may represent a possible drug of choice with reduced risk of producing tolerance and dependence after long-term use.

Etizolam, unlike most other benzodiazepines (some of which can increase levels of estradiol), has prolactogenic effects, leading to an increase in prolactin blood levels, which can lead to sexual side effects in men.

https://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showwiki.php?title=Etizolam

Looking around some people say it’s not as addictive as a normal benzo but the majority seem to agree it is.

@The Psyentist 566859 wrote:

I’ll go with the minority that say it isn’t as addictive. But I’m seemingly impervious to physical benzo addiction; thankfully. I’ve binged and consumed enough over the years but never had any hint of withdrawals from acute or chronic use

Same here, the only thing I’ve had a serious addiction problem with was alcohol. I spent a long time totally unable to live without it and spent a month in hospital on a detox. I know I’ve been on methadone but that was mainly because everyone expected me to have really bad withdrawals but I was on 90ml for about 9 months then I just stopped. Drugs are strange things and affect different people in different ways, as you can see by what’s been posted about the etizolam.

@The Psyentist 566865 wrote:

Indeed, indeed. I’m biological/medical mystery anyway. I react weirdly or have a capacity to consume ridiculous amounts of certain drugs. I’ve once half heartedly tried to OD on Xanax (one of those fuck it I don’t care which way this goes moments), took roughly 140 mg and the shit didn’t even knock me out. I was a bit disappointed, but the paramedics were gobsmacked I was conscious and coherrent upon arrival. They were expecting to find me in a coma or at least very much out cold. Again with aMT, I have a naturally higher tolerance for this. First time I took it I needed twice the normal amount of 70mg (140mg) to get a decent trip out of it. And as for cocaine, I’m simply immune to it. No matter how pure or how much you give me it won’t do shit.

I was the same when I had access to diconal. Back then I had no clue how potent they were, I only knew about them cos a mate of mine had a poster with all the major illegal drugs on it but in the centre it had a load of different pharmaceuticals, and diconal and pethidine were one of them, listed as class A. When I 1st got them, me and a mate took 2x50mg of pethidine each and didn’t get much, so me in my infinite wisdom tried 5x60mg of diconal in one go and was fucked beyond belief. Not that fuckerd (or maybe because I was so fucked) I ended up taking another 5 before the next morning. When I actually told my drugs workers what I’d been doing, how much and how often they couldn’t/wouldn’t believe it at first. Obviously if I’d had internet access, and more brain cells back then, I wouldn’t have dreamed about doing anything like that.

@stayawayfromafrica 566883 wrote:

id have to say etolizam has a a abuse potential of maybe librium.bit less than Xanax or theobenzos like klonopin.however there are vendors out there that have very physically additve benzos like 4-floro-diazapan,which is a anolouge of diazapam, but much stronger 1mg =40mg odiazapam.my former supplier would often have this but i havent seen it elsewhere.to my knowledge its legal,i couldn’t. even find info on it.but i witness sever withdrawal including. seizure.from it.etolizam ia much safer but has the ability. to cause severe withdrawal as well if abused.

Is Clonazepam (Klonopin) not a true benzo?