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  • @ame 987657 wrote:

    SSRIs are shit. After years of that I been put on atypical antipsychotics. They also are pretty shit but I see potential at higher doses.

    SSRI’s are for a completely different purpose to benzos and are nit there to get you smashed.

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      Well Im spending all my resources on a private doctor to try and get hold of some benzos and hopefully a better long term prescription.

      I thankfully never got prescribed SSRIs (which were widely used on “casualties of hedonism” of my generation in 1980s) as everyone I know who did get them had nasty side effects and seemed to get worse rather than better mental health wise although I suspect that teaching hospitals worldwide to some extent use young adults as “human rats” as prescription mistakes are less likely to be immediately harmful/fatal than could be the case with seniors.

      @ame 987659 wrote:

      Well Im spending all my resources on a private doctor to try and get hold of some benzos and hopefully a better long term prescription.

      it is a bizzare and unpleasant consequence of the global War on Drugs (and attempts to overcompensate for past mistakes) that you (and TBH many other European citizens) have to do this, especially below middle age – I work in healthcare (as an IT and Building Services manager) and when it comes to controlled (but prescribable) drugs the authorities increasingly adopts the policy everyone (patients, healthcare professionals, support staff (i.e people like me who keep stuff in the building working) is “guilty until proven innocent”.

      The amount of time and resources spent dealing with this paranoia now eats away at that left available to treat the patients, especially in the NHS where the staff are younger and when they are the same age as the patients there is even more mistrust and a certain amount of judgement of any lifestyle choices that may have allegedly contributed to health conditions..

      Just echoing what you’ve said from across the pond GL:

      I’ve been prescribed lots of psychiatric medications, but no SSRI’s and while I’m not perfect psychologically I am very fortunate to have dodged SSRI’s. The side effect profile compared to the benefits and the trouble of finding one that has efficacy for each individual along with the waiting period to see results is all seriously a bummer. That said, they are a wonder drug for some people although once on them you’re probably going to stay on them.

      As far as having trouble tracking down benzos, I have empathy but they’re pretty loose with them here although it varies from doctor to doctor and hospital to hospital but generally they’re a relatively prominent part of the treatment profile whereas I get the sense that in the UK this isn’t true. If you have a background in chemistry you can make xanax at home, which isn’t useful to most people but does explain where the fakes are coming from.

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        Funnily enough I do think about taking it into my own hands. I’m a chemistry student but don’t really know enough to be safe yet. Access to meds just to get to sleep has been shockingly difficult for me so far.

        in the UK “safety” isn’t just avoiding making poison or setting a fire but there are (and have been for 30 years) shadowy setups like “Prevent” where the cops and even your tutors are covertly watching you in case you are using what you are learning to do anything they consider illegal. In some cases they even get access to NHS records.

        Although currently the focus is on certain ethnic/religious groups and explosives, they are trying to be more “diverse” with the surveillance and have in the past been monitoring all science students they suspect of making drugs or importing/diverting them.

        A lot of middle class British Asian students in London and Northern unis got pulled up a few years back for stuff like modafinil and other “smartdrugs (although I suspect they got caught because the feds were “watching what young brown skinned people are up to”). They also check up on computer science students suspected of hacking/cybercrime.

        From around 2010 until early Spring last year it was literallly possible to legally buy all sorts of benzo-type drugs online, which were just as strong as the “legit” pharms, some of them were indeed legit licensed pharms in other European nations (although not the UK). There were of course some issues with addiction but the purchasers of these ( as opposed to the branded blends of random chemicals) were/are mostly older, well educated middle class users who were well aware of the change in legislation and most managed to taper off their doses so there wasn’t the expected carnage to the NHS when the supplies dried up.

        These substances can still be obtained via the “underground” methods but in any case you really shouldn’t have to consider committing a crime to get a medication that you need to feel better/normal, especially when it would be better your doctor monitors the dosage amongst any other medications you might be taking.

        It is bad enough you have to commit crime (even minor ones) to get “party” drugs as it is – that caused me much more hassle during my youth than the drugs themselves.

        @ame 987664 wrote:

        Funnily enough I do think about taking it into my own hands. I’m a chemistry student but don’t really know enough to be safe yet. Access to meds just to get to sleep has been shockingly difficult for me so far.

        I feel your pain, but many bad chemists have felt much worse pain in the burns unit……..

        @tryptameanie 987667 wrote:

        I feel your pain, but many bad chemists have felt much worse pain in the burns unit……..

        If you go to some college’s you’ll run into older men in the chemistry department with disfigurement and missing appendages, the explanation is quite simply and invariably “lab accident”.

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          Does anyone here know any online pharmacies with online doctor that does anything good ?

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