that’s what i was trying to say 😉
sorry i need clarifaction, like a fine wine
I could give you the emails of maybe 80 folks that can attest also to Ibogaine killing retardent withdrawal’
At the end of the day it comes down to personal choice’
It only takes one month to get clean’
The rest is a work in progress’
I know of 15 people personally that walked this road and are still on it’
I know many others that still suffer through emotional attachments or physical addictions’
People should have choice and self knowledge’
Some thing that is saddly missing in this day and age’
The “Cure” as such has been known and used by tribesmen for thousands of years’
It is not that we don’t know these things, it is that they are supressed due to the mass market.
Very few if any psychadelic “Cures” are available to modern man’
Aya-huasca, mushrooms, Iboga’ Peote’ Spice in its many forms, LSA’s they have all been made ilegal or at the least problematic’
Why’
It is not the reason that they are not any good at helping peole to heal’
I give of what I know through treatments to folks that have, most of them tryed everything else’
Ibogaine most deffinitally resets brain wave patterning’
What you do afterwards is down to personal choice’
Blessings’
Motamba’
fair enough.
i think problematic drug use stems from people being greedy. some people feel that materialsim is wrong, but then their greed can come out as problem drug use
a bit of self-awareness is no bad thing, although i’m not sure the average person in the street would be ready for the kind of experience that ayahuasca / ibogaine etc would present them with
Deffinitally agree with you bro’
but the old ways need not be shelved in the face of ignorance’
If folks got educated they would know that their are more options than of what they can get from their registered GP’
I gave up in the end with all that and went to Africa an South America to learn of the “Teacher plants” and their uses’
All I can say is that no one needs to take drugs like methadone or subutex to get a handle on opiate addiction’
There are many many plants that kill withdrawal syndrome dead’
But of only one I have found that can resset brain wave pattering as does Iboga’
Blessings’
Motamba’
Mushrooms Aya-huasca and eventually Iboga smashed all of the pain and suffering in the end for me and many many others’
Hey how come I can’t copy and paste into this window and post’
Isn’t the server big enough to take more than one could type’
Motumba’
Isn’t the server big enough to take more than one could type’
Motumba’
you should be able to copy and paste. ask Dr Bunsen if you can’t and he should be able to sort you out
if you are pasting in text from other people’s writing, please credit them and provide a link
I was lucky enough to be able to obtain some ibogaine to try and help treat my heroin addiction.
Briefly here is how it went. I took the ibogaine and laid down. It took effect within a half hour or so. I had a sensation as though I were rocking, gently forward and backward. The rocking sensation would slowly increase in intensity, but not in speed. Then I would have this weird image of a twisted stick or root being shook rapidly, accompanied by a deep sound, something like a didgeridoo. When I had this image the rocking would stop. The image lasted about 3 to 5 seconds. After the image left my mind, the rocking would start again, slowly forward and back. The rocking would go on, increasing in intensity for about 20 minutes or so, then the image of the shaking root and the sound while the rocking stopped, and then started all over again. I kept feeling like something else was going to happen although nothing else did. This went on for what seemed about 5 or 6 hours.
Then I fell asleep. I had already closed my eyes after about 3 hours of this, and I don’t know if it was the rocking sensation or what, but I simply fell asleep. Now I am very disappointed that I did because I feel like I missed out on most of the beneficial effects of the drug. I had no astounding revelations, nor did I really even get to analyze any part of my drug history or motivations or anything.
The next 18 hours or so consisted of intermittent waking from bizarre dreams. Every time I woke, I would be very confused and had trouble discerning reality from the dreams. None of the content of any of the dreams is memorable to me now, though. Each time I woke, I was extremely exhausted and fell back asleep within minutes. At one point I got up to go to the bathroom and was very ataxic. By the time I woke and didn’t feel too exhausted to stay awake, the experience was pretty much over-just about 24 hours, which is somewhat shorter than what I understand to be the normal duration (36-48 hours). There were other slight lingering effects for another 6 hours maybe, but they were very minor.
I was extremely disappointed in myself for sleeping through the drug’s effect, as I did not get any of the mental resolve and self-insight or other effects that many ibogaine users report. After waking, I had a runny nose and watery eyes and I was truly afraid that it had not attenuated my withdrawals. However, those symptoms resolved within 3 to 4 hours, and no other withdrawal symptoms at all occurred. I was very happy about that.
So that was it. I don’t feel as though I have gained anything in the way of mental, emotional, or spiritual help in staying off of drugs, which makes me fear that it didn’t really work other than to get me off of the dope for right now. So I am hoping that AA will help me stay clean. I am going to try and get a hold of a second dose, but I doubt I will be able to.
I kind of feel like I blew a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. But I didn’t think that sleeping on that stuff was even possible as I have never been able to fall asleep on other psychedelics, so when I closed my eyes, I made no attempt to try and remain awake. And after I had already slept on it, the exhaustion I felt each time I woke was overwhelming.
. . . A while back I wrote about the disappointment of my first ibogaine experience. Well I have much better news this time. Overwhelming success is what I would call it.
My second experience was very different from my first and came 2 weeks and 3 days after my first experience. I had already decided to try and not use heroin for a day before taking the second dose to try and avoid sleeping through the experience like I did last time. I made it about 20 hours and was already pretty sick from withdrawal by the time I took the ibogaine. My second and third doses were both smaller than my first dose beingabout 14mg/kg.
The initial few hours were similar to my first experience, with a strong feeling of being, well, I guess, drugged. After the first few hours I spent the next 20 hours or longer, I really can’t remember how long but it was, thinking about everything under the sun; actually I spent some time thinking about the sun itself too. I had lingering effects this time also, mostly visual effects in dim lights, but also an almost complete inability to sleep, and occasional waves of warmth or chill across my skin, especially my scalp.
I had initially planned on taking my third dose somewhere between a week and a month after the second, but I had time off from work and decided to take it during this period since it is unusual for me to have even 2 days off in a row. This may have been a mistake, but it doesn’t seem to matter to me much now. So I took the third dose a little over 56 hours or so after the second. The reason I say it may have been a mistake is because the lack of sleep has lasted long enough to grow uncomfortable.
My third experience was pretty much the same as the second, both in effect and duration. It has now been about 60 hours since I took the third dose and I still have the same lingering effects I listed above.
I have had absolutely zero desire to touch heroin since I took the second dose. It has no temptation for me at all. So despite the inability to sleep I am very pleased with the results.
Well, there you have it. It does work. And it is also true that multiple doses can be effective when a single dose is not. Even though it is 4 a.m. and I haven’t slept more than about 6 hours in 4 days, I am extremely happy with how things turned out.
. . . I fell off the wagon, got back on that horse, went back out and whatever other euphemisms you can think of. I had 41 days off the shit today. I went out to buy some freaking CDs with no intention of using, and somehow I came home with smack. I had to go to four places to find the two CDs I was looking for, and somehow while I was driving around the thought to use occurred, which then turned into a craving, and finally a deep need. Or so it seemed anyway. I am seriously bummed by this turn of events. At least I was smart enough to know my tolerance would be low, but damn I am flying off the smallest piece. So now I am seriously considering flushing the other 95% of what I bought. Sorry to say that in here, I know just about everyone who reads that will wince at it, but there it is. I only know where to get black tar around here, so I had to buy a $25 blob (the smallest amount you can get) and I don’t want to have any of this shit left over tomorrow or I will use it. And I doubt I could finish it tonight without getting really sick.
. . . Well I got sick as a dog and flushed the rest of the shit. Man, I didn’t even enjoy the buzz. My lack of tolerance pretty much made it so that I have just been puking with a throbbing headache. I am back on the wagon, off that horse, and whatever other euphemisms you can think of for quitting dope.
I have heard from some people that their past is played out something like a movie, but I never experienced it quite like that. I did have certain things that I had more or less repressed, things dealing with my parents and my childhood, that came to the surface and I was forced to deal with them. Some of that stuff is quite unpleasant but I always feel better later. Someone put it like this and I found it fairly accurate. He said it was like taking out your emotional carpet and beating it with a broom so that all the dirt comes out. And you do feel somewhat “cleansed” afterward . . .
As far as it wearing off, you’re just talking about the relief from cravings. Damn, getting off heroin with no withdrawals is reason enough to take it, the relief from cravings is really just a bonus. And a heroin addict really can’t expect that just taking some other drug is going to cure them of their addiction. I mean, there are consequences of becoming an addict. Besides, the longer you go without using, the less you crave. So if you got 6 months free of cravings, you should be able to resist the urge to use if it did reappear. I had a month free of cravings and then when they did come back, I was so unaccustomed to them I think I was actually surprised to have them. Now I crave now and then, but I know that if I can resist for a few hours at the most, they will go away. And there were some mental changes (as far as attitudes and stuff) that I think were probably permanent. No acid trip I ever had made any permanent changes in my attitudes. That to me makes ibogaine seem like a very powerful substance’
Printed with thanks K. A.
Then I fell asleep. I had already closed my eyes after about 3 hours of this, and I don’t know if it was the rocking sensation or what, but I simply fell asleep. Now I am very disappointed that I did because I feel like I missed out on most of the beneficial effects of the drug. I had no astounding revelations, nor did I really even get to analyze any part of my drug history or motivations or anything.
The next 18 hours or so consisted of intermittent waking from bizarre dreams. Every time I woke, I would be very confused and had trouble discerning reality from the dreams. None of the content of any of the dreams is memorable to me now, though. Each time I woke, I was extremely exhausted and fell back asleep within minutes. At one point I got up to go to the bathroom and was very ataxic. By the time I woke and didn’t feel too exhausted to stay awake, the experience was pretty much over-just about 24 hours, which is somewhat shorter than what I understand to be the normal duration (36-48 hours). There were other slight lingering effects for another 6 hours maybe, but they were very minor.
I was extremely disappointed in myself for sleeping through the drug’s effect, as I did not get any of the mental resolve and self-insight or other effects that many ibogaine users report. After waking, I had a runny nose and watery eyes and I was truly afraid that it had not attenuated my withdrawals. However, those symptoms resolved within 3 to 4 hours, and no other withdrawal symptoms at all occurred. I was very happy about that.
So that was it. I don’t feel as though I have gained anything in the way of mental, emotional, or spiritual help in staying off of drugs, which makes me fear that it didn’t really work other than to get me off of the dope for right now. So I am hoping that AA will help me stay clean. I am going to try and get a hold of a second dose, but I doubt I will be able to.
I kind of feel like I blew a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. But I didn’t think that sleeping on that stuff was even possible as I have never been able to fall asleep on other psychedelics, so when I closed my eyes, I made no attempt to try and remain awake. And after I had already slept on it, the exhaustion I felt each time I woke was overwhelming.
. . . A while back I wrote about the disappointment of my first ibogaine experience. Well I have much better news this time. Overwhelming success is what I would call it.
My second experience was very different from my first and came 2 weeks and 3 days after my first experience. I had already decided to try and not use heroin for a day before taking the second dose to try and avoid sleeping through the experience like I did last time. I made it about 20 hours and was already pretty sick from withdrawal by the time I took the ibogaine. My second and third doses were both smaller than my first dose beingabout 14mg/kg.
The initial few hours were similar to my first experience, with a strong feeling of being, well, I guess, drugged. After the first few hours I spent the next 20 hours or longer, I really can’t remember how long but it was, thinking about everything under the sun; actually I spent some time thinking about the sun itself too. I had lingering effects this time also, mostly visual effects in dim lights, but also an almost complete inability to sleep, and occasional waves of warmth or chill across my skin, especially my scalp.
I had initially planned on taking my third dose somewhere between a week and a month after the second, but I had time off from work and decided to take it during this period since it is unusual for me to have even 2 days off in a row. This may have been a mistake, but it doesn’t seem to matter to me much now. So I took the third dose a little over 56 hours or so after the second. The reason I say it may have been a mistake is because the lack of sleep has lasted long enough to grow uncomfortable.
My third experience was pretty much the same as the second, both in effect and duration. It has now been about 60 hours since I took the third dose and I still have the same lingering effects I listed above.
I have had absolutely zero desire to touch heroin since I took the second dose. It has no temptation for me at all. So despite the inability to sleep I am very pleased with the results.
Well, there you have it. It does work. And it is also true that multiple doses can be effective when a single dose is not. Even though it is 4 a.m. and I haven’t slept more than about 6 hours in 4 days, I am extremely happy with how things turned out.
. . . I fell off the wagon, got back on that horse, went back out and whatever other euphemisms you can think of. I had 41 days off the shit today. I went out to buy some freaking CDs with no intention of using, and somehow I came home with smack. I had to go to four places to find the two CDs I was looking for, and somehow while I was driving around the thought to use occurred, which then turned into a craving, and finally a deep need. Or so it seemed anyway. I am seriously bummed by this turn of events. At least I was smart enough to know my tolerance would be low, but damn I am flying off the smallest piece. So now I am seriously considering flushing the other 95% of what I bought. Sorry to say that in here, I know just about everyone who reads that will wince at it, but there it is. I only know where to get black tar around here, so I had to buy a $25 blob (the smallest amount you can get) and I don’t want to have any of this shit left over tomorrow or I will use it. And I doubt I could finish it tonight without getting really sick.
. . . Well I got sick as a dog and flushed the rest of the shit. Man, I didn’t even enjoy the buzz. My lack of tolerance pretty much made it so that I have just been puking with a throbbing headache. I am back on the wagon, off that horse, and whatever other euphemisms you can think of for quitting dope.
I have heard from some people that their past is played out something like a movie, but I never experienced it quite like that. I did have certain things that I had more or less repressed, things dealing with my parents and my childhood, that came to the surface and I was forced to deal with them. Some of that stuff is quite unpleasant but I always feel better later. Someone put it like this and I found it fairly accurate. He said it was like taking out your emotional carpet and beating it with a broom so that all the dirt comes out. And you do feel somewhat “cleansed” afterward . . .
As far as it wearing off, you’re just talking about the relief from cravings. Damn, getting off heroin with no withdrawals is reason enough to take it, the relief from cravings is really just a bonus. And a heroin addict really can’t expect that just taking some other drug is going to cure them of their addiction. I mean, there are consequences of becoming an addict. Besides, the longer you go without using, the less you crave. So if you got 6 months free of cravings, you should be able to resist the urge to use if it did reappear. I had a month free of cravings and then when they did come back, I was so unaccustomed to them I think I was actually surprised to have them. Now I crave now and then, but I know that if I can resist for a few hours at the most, they will go away. And there were some mental changes (as far as attitudes and stuff) that I think were probably permanent. No acid trip I ever had made any permanent changes in my attitudes. That to me makes ibogaine seem like a very powerful substance’
Printed with thanks K. A.
This is just one of hundreds of cases where Ibogaine has been seen to work an almost miracle.
Reduced tolerance, reduced withdrawal, reduced cravings’
There is a lot of further study going on with MAPS and also treatment centers in Mexico and the Caribbean’
Ibogaine is not schedule in many countries’
It seems to be a money game’
Pharmaceutical companies do not want to back something that would reduce the amount of pills they produce and sell’
Addicts keep people in jobs, doctors keep pharmaceutical companies in business’
A vicious circle of making a living from the devils and demons of others’
Feed yourself not pharmaceutical companies’
Be well’
i have a small penis, will ibogaine help
of course it will, come down to the clinic and get soem will sort you right out, u can leave your car in the car park we’ll get some ibogine out to clean it, i see ur hairs a little longer than usual can i offer you some ibogine to sort that out?
Comments like that just go to show how imature you are at 18-19 hahahahahahahahahaha’ keep growing and learning’ Ez now
I’m not meaning to be rude but maybe it is because you are posting in reply to your own posts about the same thing and not contributing to other areas of the site We understand that you think Ibogaine works, but the more you preach the more I switch off as it makes you come across as some sort of nutter findementalist and makes me wonder if everyone who takes Ibogaine ends up like this. I am not saying you are nuts as the internet can be deceiving but you are definately not making me want to reccomend ibogaine to anyone I know.
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