Philosophy Thread

[1 korno @korno Member]

Yeah! If something formed and then disappeared – at the speed of light, it literally would have never ever existed, it’s too quick.
Something to ponder over.

[1 Lshak @lshak Member]

@korno 530561 wrote:

Yeah! If something formed and then disappeared – at the speed of light, it literally would have never ever existed, it’s too quick.
Something to ponder over.

Or perhaps that is exactly how the universe has been created, and since WE don’t travel at the speed of light we are slowly disappearing, where at light speed millions of billions of miles away, it has already ended and is collapsing on itself.

So in theory, what has formed and ceased to exist is where we are living in the middle, I hope this makes sense?

[1 barrettone @barrettone Member]

@korno 530561 wrote:

Yeah! If something formed and then disappeared – at the speed of light, it literally would have never ever existed, it’s too quick.
Something to ponder over.

Actually things like that do exist! 😀 They’re called virtual particles, and though we cannot detect them directly, we can observe their effects (such as in the propagation of electric fields. Virtual particles carrying charge are emitted from the field source.)

[1 korno @korno Member]

@Lshak 530564 wrote:

Or perhaps that is exactly how the universe has been created, and since WE don’t travel at the speed of light we are slowly disappearing, where at light speed millions of billions of miles away, it has already ended and is collapsing on itself.

So in theory, what has formed and ceased to exist is where we are living in the middle, I hope this makes sense?

That’s exactly what i’m getting at, because no one has ever physically seen a black hole.
It appears then disappears so insanely quickly, but it could very well be the big bang.

[1 Lshak @lshak Member]

Hmm interesting, makes a lot of sense that a black hole could be what’s collapsing in on itself then. I didn’t know they appear then disappear though, I thought they start from the very end of a star and then keep growing.

I’m not sure if you know, but did you know every galaxy has a ‘super black hole’ in the centre of them. This black hole was actually the creator of our galaxy, it creates the galaxy by imploding and exploding which releases a ‘quazer’, the black hole creates a galaxy around itself and is slowly eating that galaxy back up.

Thinking about it… A super black hole is god, it created the universe which in turn created more black holes which create life within each galaxy and then destroys it when it is ready to swallow its creation back up again.

[1 barrettone @barrettone Member]

@korno 530586 wrote:

That’s exactly what i’m getting at, because no one has ever physically seen a black hole.
It appears then disappears so insanely quickly, but it could very well be the big bang.

Well the black hole doesn’t “disappear.” We just can’t see it because, well, light cannot escape from it. But we can detect them due to their massive gravitational pull.

That said the mathematics/mechanics behind black holes do not preclude the existence of universes within them. That’s the thing with singularities, that’s where pretty much all fundamental physical laws break down.

[1 korno @korno Member]

I think they might be where our gravity leaks in from then, ‘to escape the pull of a black holes gravity you need to travel faster than the speed of light’ They’re hoarding it all!
Hence collapsing in on itself.

[1 Lshak @lshak Member]

Actually I’m pretty sure even light can’t escape a black hole, once its gravity takes hold of you that’s it…

Any thoughts what’s inside of them and what would come out on the other end if you went through one? If its another dimension, is it possible that every galaxy has a different dimension if every galaxy was created by a black hole? Or would you just die..? I wonder if we will ever find out and if we do hopefully in my life time 🙂

[1 barrettone @barrettone Member]

@Lshak 530594 wrote:

Actually I’m pretty sure even light can’t escape a black hole, once its gravity takes hold of you that’s it…

Any thoughts what’s inside of them and what would come out on the other end if you went through one? If its another dimension, is it possible that every galaxy has a different dimension if every galaxy was created by a black hole? Or would you just die..? I wonder if we will ever find out and if we do hopefully in my life time 🙂

They’re collapsed stars, there isn’t really an “other end.” Just a singularity point. The galaxies weren’t “created by black holes.” The hypothesis is that maybe there are UNIVERSES in black holes. The galaxies within our observable universe all occupy the “same dimension.” Though if you could clarify what exactly you mean by “dimensions,” because I’m not sure we’re talking about the same thing.

If you tried to enter a black hole the result would not be pretty. Not only would you turn into something similar to spaghetti (due to the huge differences in gravity between your feet and your head) but once you were pulled in past the event horizon, time would stop for you. You would be stuck there for eternity.

[1 Lshak @lshak Member]

@barrettone 530595 wrote:

They’re collapsed stars, there isn’t really an “other end.” Just a singularity point. The galaxies weren’t “created by black holes.” The hypothesis is that maybe there are UNIVERSES in black holes. The galaxies within our observable universe all occupy the “same dimension.” Though if you could clarify what exactly you mean by “dimensions,” because I’m not sure we’re talking about the same thing.

If you tried to enter a black hole the result would not be pretty. Not only would you turn into something similar to spaghetti (due to the huge differences in gravity between your feet and your head) but once you were pulled in past the event horizon, time would stop for you. You would be stuck there for eternity.

Research the creation of galaxies with the key words: super black hole quazer galaxy creation

I’ve read a decent amount and I’m pretty sure i can confidently say I’m right, well… From a scientists analysis and what they have found out.
So more universes in different black holes, but if there are black holes in every single galaxy it’s near to infinite the amount of universes, since that black hole would have another universe of its own with millions and billions of other galaxies. And by dimensions I mean 5th, 8th, etc.. Dimension, put its possible in a different galaxy in our own universe there is another dimension. I don’t know much about other dimensions so I’m not going to theorize(?) into it too much…

Yes that’s true, stuck where? Inside the black hole? Well what exactly is on the other side where you would be stuck for eternity? And would you still be all stretched out to a spaghetti strand from the gravity even after being pulled into the other side ?

If it has the gravity to pull suns and planets or whatever 1000s of times bigger than us around it, imagine what it would do to us, I wouldn’t want to test out what’s on the other side! But I think it’s inevitable that this super black hole in the Milky Way will grow and become the end to our galaxy and the human race (on earth) that we know of

[1 Deez @deez Member]

If you went into a black hole you would implode under the massive gravitational pull. You’d also have died due to lack of oxygen, food etc. if that somehow didn’t kill you.

Black holes are there, we just can’t see them as light cannot escape. They don’t create galaxies, but I think they are at the centre of every/most galaxies. There is definitely one at the centre of the milky way.

There is no ‘other side’ of the black hole. It is a single point of extremely condensed matter that gives it it’s gravitational pull. Before the super massive black hole at the centre of our galaxy kills us all, the sun would have come to the end of its life killing us and we would have had a collision with the Andromeda Galaxy.

[1 pyross. @pyross Member]

[video=youtube_share;3pAnRKD4raY]http://youtu.be/3pAnRKD4raY[/video]

[1 Lshak @lshak Member]

Very interesting video, I love space, its so interesting with the unlimited potential it has.

I wonder what would happen if two black holes met, would they implode and combine to grow at an even bigger rate?

[1 korno @korno Member]

I guess they must merge, giving them double the power or chance to eat our universe up. They will probably be the death of us…

[1 Izbeckistan @izbeckistan Member]

You must have your own gravitational pull,

Cause you’re so dense!

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