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      @tryptameanie 985931 wrote:

      The ban only applies to the sale of any items in the UK only and don’t affect anywhere else at all. It’s still totally legal to possess and use every compound that was not banned before the so called ban.

      Are they still RC Companies in europa?

      :sign0068: are u a PHANTOM ????

      @iliesse 985934 wrote:

      Are they still RC Companies in europa?

      :sign0068: are u a PHANTOM ????

      Yes and in fact 2 vendors, the most interesting vendors imo, now live in europe and have some very VERY exciting compounds for sale now. And there are a few good EU RC suppliers


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        @tryptameanie 985936 wrote:

        Yes and in fact 2 vendors, the most interesting vendors imo, now live in europe and have some very VERY exciting compounds for sale now. And there are a few good EU RC suppliers

        u are welcome :flowers: with such news :biggreen::biggreen::biggreen::biggreen::biggreen::biggreen::biggreen::biggreen::biggreen::biggreen:

        @tryptameanie 985936 wrote:

        Yes and in fact 2 vendors, the most interesting vendors imo, now live in europe and have some very VERY exciting compounds for sale now. And there are a few good EU RC suppliers

        I got the impression (especially from reading forums/trip reports in other languages) the mainland European vendors had always been there and it was them who supplied many of the UK ones.

        The somewhat more scientific approach to recreational drug use is likely to mean NPS do not create the moral panic they have in the UK and at present are left alone by the authorities. Indeed I haven’t seen any scare stories in Dutch or German news about NPS at all and only a small amount about MDMA or other party drugs. There seem to be a number of older drug users dropping dead in Munich but thats about it…

        @General Lighting 985940 wrote:

        I got the impression (especially from reading forums/trip reports in other languages) the mainland European vendors had always been there and it was them who supplied many of the UK ones.

        The somewhat more scientific approach to recreational drug use is likely to mean NPS do not create the moral panic they have in the UK and at present are left alone by the authorities. Indeed I haven’t seen any scare stories in Dutch or German news about NPS at all and only a small amount about MDMA or other party drugs. There seem to be a number of older drug users dropping dead in Munich but thats about it…

        It certaily may have been that way and especially with most of the shit that was on the RC market, but the 2 men responsible for bringing all the lysergides to market, have been supplying the world basically. The starting material for some ALD-52 was provided by this vendor…..


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          @tryptameanie 985941 wrote:

          It certaily may have been that way and especially with most of the shit that was on the RC market, but the 2 men responsible for bringing all the lysergides to market, have been supplying the world basically. The starting material for some ALD-52 was provided by this vendor…..

          i have the feeling i saw somewhere ALD-52 to buy , isn’t it banned??? somewher inCanada, andvery possibly an guarantee Money lost, but who knows….

          it is Class A in the UK – even though it has never been found in this country. The change to the laws was implemented separately in 2014, long before the ban on all RCs.

          The status in other countries is unclear although it is an unstable compound that if exposed to air/water becomes LSD (which then makes it illegal worldwide).

          @iliesse 985950 wrote:

          i have the feeling i saw somewhere ALD-52 to buy , isn’t it banned??? somewher inCanada, andvery possibly an guarantee Money lost, but who knows….

          No, ALD-52 was not banned even in the US until many years after LSD was banned and was only suspected to have been made as Nick Sand, the LSD chemist, told the court he was actually making ALD-52, which was still legal. He even said he had found a new syntyhesis method for it that avoided ever producing LSD-25 as an intermediate, as the only known synthsis involved making LSD-25 first then adding a 1-acetyl to it (ALD-52 is 1-acetyl-LSD….).

          Got him allowed out on bail which he promptly skipped, moved to Canada and cooked damn fine LSD for around 20 more years lol.

          @General Lighting 985951 wrote:

          it is Class A in the UK – even though it has never been found in this country. The change to the laws was implemented separately in 2014, long before the ban on all RCs.

          The status in other countries is unclear although it is an unstable compound that if exposed to air/water becomes LSD (which then makes it illegal worldwide).

          GL, that is not gonna break down anywhere near as severely as you seem to think. In vials in cool dark places pure crystal will keep for as long as it’s been possible for a man to rpoduce a batch and then get asked how stable to which he said I know for a fact 30 years at least.

          It is likely it’s a very insoluble crystal as very pure LSD is and I know some of the other lysergamides are supposed to be very hard to find a solvent to dissolve it properly to lay blotters but they are obviously managing it en mass on very high quality very potent, and for at least 12 moths I know myself, stable.

          It’s not even clear to me if once converted to the 1-acetyl it still decomposes in light……


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            Have a look of your present I bought for you as u asked : I Christened it with the name Marysmoke Forest Hideaway Smoking-Machine

            Hope u gonna enjoy the video… (THE WORD “BITCH” IN THE MUSIC LYRICS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU, IT’S JUST NOT EASY FINDING MUSIC WITHOUT ROYALITIES)

            @tryptameanie 985953 wrote:

            GL, that is not gonna break down anywhere near as severely as you seem to think. In vials in cool dark places pure crystal will keep for as long as it’s been possible for a man to rpoduce a batch and then get asked how stable to which he said I know for a fact 30 years at least.

            It is likely it’s a very insoluble crystal as very pure LSD is and I know some of the other lysergamides are supposed to be very hard to find a solvent to dissolve it properly to lay blotters but they are obviously managing it en mass on very high quality very potent, and for at least 12 moths I know myself, stable.

            It’s not even clear to me if once converted to the 1-acetyl it still decomposes in light……

            LSD tends to be dissolved in alcohol, some sources discuss stronger solvents (such as acetonitrile) but those can be hazardous.

            if the legal status of ALD-52 isn’t yet controlled in many countries (although it comes under a new analogues law passed in Latvia in 2015) its surprising that it is not more popular.

            Then again LSD itself although illegal isn’t that expensive, although I always found it to be very sporadically available in comparison to other party drugs.

            Years ago when I was lucky enough to get hold of some I shared a few tabs with a friend who lived 35km away by posting it hidden in an AOL CD [1] inside another envelope (I also used a postbox in a random bit of town which I knew was clear of CCTV and I rarely visited) and a cover note of some random stuff printed in a different language.

            [1] that gives some idea of just how long ago it was :laugh_at: although similar CDs were then widely sent through the post so didn’t arouse suspicion.


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              @General Lighting 985955 wrote:

              LSD tends to be dissolved in alcohol, some sources discuss stronger solvents (such as acetonitrile) but those can be hazardous.

              if the legal status of ALD-52 isn’t yet controlled in many countries (although it comes under a new analogues law passed in Latvia in 2015) its surprising that it is not more popular.

              Then again LSD itself although illegal isn’t that expensive, although I always found it to be very sporadically available in comparison to other party drugs.

              Years ago when I was lucky enough to get hold of some I shared a few tabs with a friend who lived 35km away by posting it hidden in an AOL CD [1] inside another envelope (I also used a postbox in a random bit of town which I knew was clear of CCTV and I rarely visited) and a cover note of some random stuff printed in a different language.

              [1] that gives some idea of just how long ago it was :laugh_at: although similar CDs were then widely sent through the post so didn’t arouse suspicion.

              so u admit having sent tabs…. is der Komissar in holidays,i never read something which could be interprated as illegal, even i know the tabs were for the dishcleaner…..

              LSD is pretty much always dissolved in 95% alcohol solution in America

              @General Lighting 985955 wrote:

              LSD tends to be dissolved in alcohol, some sources discuss stronger solvents (such as acetonitrile) but those can be hazardous.

              if the legal status of ALD-52 isn’t yet controlled in many countries (although it comes under a new analogues law passed in Latvia in 2015) its surprising that it is not more popular.

              Then again LSD itself although illegal isn’t that expensive, although I always found it to be very sporadically available in comparison to other party drugs.

              Years ago when I was lucky enough to get hold of some I shared a few tabs with a friend who lived 35km away by posting it hidden in an AOL CD [1] inside another envelope (I also used a postbox in a random bit of town which I knew was clear of CCTV and I rarely visited) and a cover note of some random stuff printed in a different language.

              [1] that gives some idea of just how long ago it was :laugh_at: although similar CDs were then widely sent through the post so didn’t arouse suspicion.

              I think if people knew the legend of ALD-52 is would be the best selling ergoline on the planet right now, but people are seeing AL-LAS being offered and choosing that (actually more expensive that ALD-52) but also ETH-LAD is there, which David Nichols, the developer, said was the only ergoline more potent than LSD itself. The 1-proponyl-ETH-LAD qwas produced 1 time only at a very expensive price as a proof of concept more than anything, maybe actually getting ETH-LAD was the real goal????

              @Shakyamuni 985962 wrote:

              LSD is pretty much always dissolved in 95% alcohol solution in America

              Read TOHKAL and it says as the purity of the crystal is increased it becomes harder to dissolve and speaking to one of the vendors who produced a lot of blotters he told me many f those compounds were pigs to dissolve in most normal solvent (IPA, acetone, MEK…) but they had a special solvent that they used to dissolve anything, never wouls tell me what it was though lol, but any solvent that will fully dissolve your crystal will do fine.

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