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  • If a clergyman is going to ass-rape a choir boy is it more evil if he wears a condom and if so why? :weee:

    I was raised Catholic, then declared myself an atheist, got addicted to drugs, hit rock bottom and got saved in a Christian shelter that was Charismatic/Pentecostal, moved out and attended a non-denominational church, met my husband and got married in a Southern Baptist church, and now attend an Evangelical Bible church! :laugh_at: Confused yet? 😉

    All I know is that if God had not intervened and answered me when I called for help (story coming later) – I’d either be dead or in jail. I personally don’t call myself ‘religious’ – that denotes following traditions…I am a Christian.

    I have no patience for religious people, for one thing because if there really is a powerful omnipotent being that looks upon us and casts us to heaven or hell (but still loves you) then he couldn’t have just fluffed out of nowhere and was all knowing in the time that a camel spits, so he’s obviously been made just like us by the “Big Bang” and thus can still be killed! :yakk:

    …but I’ll treat them with respect.

    Religion…The start of %99 of wars on this planet!

    MAN’S idea of organized religion, yes. Man puts God in a box to fit his own ideas of what He should be, and some even think that they need to KILL what they deem ‘infidels’! Real Christianity is NOT like that!!! Did Jesus ever say KILL those who are nonbelievers???? True that was in the OT but that was for diff reasons…..

    And the thing is – yes God loves us but He is also a righteous judge – would YOU want a murderer getting off scot-free because the judge ‘loved him’????

    God existed before anything – we didn’t make Him up! Do you really think humans could do that???? :crazy:

    amyberthelet;241233 wrote:
    God existed before anything – we didn’t make Him up! Do you really think humans could do that???? :crazy:

    Of course, it’s called fiction, like how the charateristics of Jesus Christs life has been used before Jesus was even born and the best defense Christians can put up is “the devil made it up”.

    And there’s so many different variations, that it’s pointless wasting your time in a church when it stands a good chance of being wrong.

    If anything, the bible is a set of moral stories like Aesop’s Fables.

    Well, ….you don’t have to believe in the truth – it is STILL truth. Every word of Scripture is God-breathed….variations not-withstanding. I am talking about The Holy Bible, not denominations. Doesn’t matter which version of the Bible (except the one the Jehovah’s Witnesses use) – KJV or The Message….and here’s the church I attend

    http://www.deliverancebiblechurch.com

    I really doubt it’s wrong. Sorry to be so hardline, but I am an Evangelical. All the variations of the denom. are just that – as long as they do not detract from what is taught in the Bible, they are VALID. I am not talking about Mormons, Jehovah’s W, etc. But from Catholic to Evangelical…we’re all Christians.

    amyberthelet;241249 wrote:
    I really doubt it’s wrong. Sorry to be so hardline

    According to the Bible, to doubt (even the slightest) the Holy Spirit’s existence, is to be punishable by being sent to Hell when you die, there’s no forgiveness, game over.

    Don’t worry about being hardline, I’m not exactly playing the softly softly to you so I expect the same vigilance from you to defend yourself.

    FINALLY! I’m glad someone realizes my right to defend my faith! raaa

    I didn’t say I doubted the Holy Spirit……I meant to say I KNOW it’s not wrong, but expected an attack…..was being a bit sarcastic I’m afraid….. 😉

    You are right…the only unpardonable sin is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit – which I don’t think means to doubt, but outright MOCK.

    amyberthelet;241258 wrote:
    You are right…the only unpardonable sin is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit – which I don’t think means to doubt, but outright MOCK.

    Looks like I’m out of luck of repenting all sins and being very sowwy about all the bad things I’ve done on my death bed then. :hopeless:

    Which pretty much means, I don’t have to worry (If I were agnostic/religious) about committing whatever your God would call a sin and being punished for it seeing as I’m screwed already! raaa

    amyberthelet;241258 wrote:
    I didn’t say I doubted the Holy Spirit……I meant to say I KNOW it’s not wrong, but expected an attack…..was being a bit sarcastic I’m afraid….. 😉

    Sarcasm on the internet.. I always miss it.

    You mean you outright mocked the Holy Spirit? I don’t mean mocking religion or Jesus…. this is something different. It’s kinda like flat out declaring that the Risen Christ’s power could NEVER do ANYTHING in your life, and HAS never done ANYTHING period. Cursing or saying I hate God doesn’t count. This is much more serious. Not many have actually done it, that’s why there’s still hope! And even if you HAD done so, remember that sinning does NOT only affect YOU, but everyone around you as well!!!

    Since I do not believe in religion period, it’s just as good as saying I do not believe in anything that is in religion, thus that includes not believing in the particular section that this “Holy Spirit” has done anything for me, or others.

    Since I don’t believe in religion, the logical thought is to believe that everything that has happened is from evolution up to mankinds fumblings.

    A magical wisp has had nothing to do with this reality, but only exists in peoples minds who need to find a reason, however fanciful, to grasp onto when there is no answer for their pain, to understand death, famine the general folly of the world around us and everything inbetween.

    I believe the universe is a much more wonderful and mystical place then saying some bloke popped out of nowhere and thought it up out of his noggin before going senile.
    If there really is a God, he was on this earth tens of thousands of years ago (maybe more) and an author of illegible books.


    DJCliffy;241551 wrote:

    You wuss.
    Stand up and be proud of your blasphemous heathen ways of thinking!

    O-D;241559 wrote:
    You wuss.
    Stand up and be proud of your blasphemous heathen ways of thinking!

    Mate i was gonna but the aliens might get me. :hopeless:

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