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  • I’d not even heard about the guy that was shot on thus – so have very little back ground info,

    the link is to the riots in pictures – looks awful

    Latest news, comment and reviews from the Guardian | guardian.co.uk

    apparently a peaceful demonstration to the police station to ask for answers, was hijacked and turned to violence allegedly after the police assaulted a female, but again I’m not totally sure, bus set on fire, carpet shop set on fire, 26 police injured etc

    and a live twit;
    Twitter

    Kicking off in enfield now ….

    this worries me;

    The Guardian understands that initial ballistics tests on a bullet, found lodged in a police radio worn by an officer during Thursday’s incident, suggested it was police issue – and therefore had not been fired by Duggan.

    There are more questions than answers in this matter…and as long the trust of the police by the common people on the streets are low, this is bound to make the streets of London a war zone… 🙁

    Now you find the live update here;
    London riots: the third night

    A repost from indymedia london;

    [h=1]A costly mistake… but we are people too[/h][IMG]http://london.indymedia.org/images/icon_article.gif?1310902680[/IMG] [IMG]http://london.indymedia.org/images/icons/star-blue1.png?1310902680[/IMG] Published: August 08, 2011 18:44 by gdm | Share
    Tagged as: cuts repression riot_2011 social_struggles solidarity
    Neighbourhoods: hackney harringey islington
    I was under ten when PC Keith Blakelock was killed and Broadwater Farm erupted in the now infamous riots of 1985. I was growing up a few miles away near Finsbury Park; racial tension existed locally, with the National Front in evidence across north and east London; sympathy for the unwilling victims of an unwanted war in Northern Ireland was widespread; and there was little respect for authority in the form of the Metropolitan Police – a feeling vindicated by the subsequent unmasking of corruption at “Stokey-Pokey” (Stoke Newington) police station, situated only a short distance away in Hackney.

    Twenty-five years later, despite what even recently appeared to have been progress, little has actually changed. As a nation, we are all affected by the corruption of authority. The financial extravagances of recent years are causing the economic system to collapse on us – and the poor are paying. Racial tensions persist, with increasing support for the English Defence League across the country, and DNA profiles samples taken by police in London are disproportionately far greater for non-northern European whites (more than 1 in 2 of all such profiles) than the comparable figure for the London population as a whole (approximately 30%). We remain involved in costly, unwanted and unnecessary wars against “terrorists”, and bribing the police is apparently still rife – if their conduct surrounding the red-top press is anything to go by.

    Yet the riots in Tottenham and Wood Green on Saturday night were not political in origin, say the commentators. I disagree. They may not have been consciously political – the destruction of local businesses (I don’t mean the IKEAs, CarPhone Warehouses or HMVs, but the local grocery stores and small businesses run by families or individuals) is not commensurate with good neighbourly manners – but the riots carry a message: “We are people too.” The banking excesses of the past decade have robbed us – the people – who are now expected to pay the price. And now the people are asking “why?” Why are our youth clubs, nurseries, leisure centres, and libraries being closed? Why are hospital budgets and health care services being cut? Why are we blamed and why are we carrying the can for the problems caused by elites?

    Indeed, Haringey seems to suffer most from this robbery: as a borough, it is ranked in the top 15 most deprived boroughs in England (there are 326 altogether). More specifically, it is Tottenham that bears the brunt of this; the western half of the borough contains the relatively much more affluent districts around Alexandra Palace, Muswell Hill and Highgate. The deprivation figures across the borough only become more extreme when looking at specific measures of deprivation such as child poverty, employment levels, or housing.

    Is there a light at the end of the tunnel? It would be nice to say “yes,” but I’m not sure that I can. Downing Street on Sunday morning lit a candle in the dark: by stating that “[t]he rioting in Tottenham last night was utterly unacceptable” the door at least has been opened for local residents to claim compensation under the Riot (Damages) Act 1886. This makes provision for monies to be “paid out of the police fund of the area” But such retrospective claims often take years to effect, and the damage upon our communities is being inflicted now. Cameron’s cuts can only lead to further unrest; the true remedy requires long term investment in community combined with an understanding of every day life – an understanding that this government is clearly lacking. The coalition’s failure to learn the lessons of the last 30 years is proving a costly mistake for us all.

    Its coming closer – and escalating, all over the place, Birmingham too

    Just seen the fires in Croydon, which look terrifying,

    so many people loosing their livelihoods, and homes and being terrified out of their communities…

    disillusioned youths who seem to have a requirement of trainers and goods from curry’s…..

    I got no sympathy for anyone involved in disorder in these riots. I want to see water cannons and rubber bullets bought out. Peoples homes are being burnt down as are peoples livelihoods. These scum need to be crushed and crushed swiftly and brutally. Sorry if that offends anyone but I don’t think you can apply a softly softly approach here.

    The fire’s are so worrying – as they are so damaging and so easy for kids, elderly, families to get caught up in shops / flats above, homes over the road etc

    26 families lost their homes in just one block, people escaped in just their PJ’s and have lost everyting :cry::cry::cry:

    this is not political, this has nothing to do with this lad being shot – it is angry youth —

    yes they prob have stuff to be angry about, the goverments cuts and balls up of the banks etc,

    but how does damaging your own community and making it more difficult for this society to get back on its feet, whilst people are already loosing their jobs with out them being burnt out, the cost of the recovery process, the cost of policing this etc etc – gonna help anyone – ??

    and what for?? Short term benefits of some trainers, clothes, fags and booze???

    senseless!!! This country is falling apart, (and again under a tory government :you_crazy:you_crazy who have finally decided to cut their holidays short – 3 days too late)

    (and when they are caught and get arson on their criminal records they will be right royally fucked – it is one of the worst offenses as the risk to endangering life is so high – (certainly wont be given a council flat with that on your record….. ) bet they not even thinking of protecting ‘what little future’ they believe they have)

    I used to live in a flat above a shop in South London – there was similar riots in the 1970s and thats why my parents left London for SE England (I’ve put more on TL about it but basically it meant Lewisham lost two professional people, a scientist and a teacher, after paying for my Dad’s college course (my mum was also considering teaching in London) as the authorities couldn’t guarantee the safety fo a young family because of peoples anger and stupidity even back then.

    Today bare cars (civillians cars, not police cars) have been torched in SE6 and SE13 (I was born and grew up there) – they’ve even done in the pie and mash shop in SE17! Despite being a Londoner I’m so glad I got the fuck out of London/SE England area and am now 80 miles away.

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