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  • Ehh back to the issue of the killing of Mark Duggan;

    Mark Duggan death: IPCC says it inadvertently misled media

    Police watchdog says it led media to believe shots were exchanged but Duggan was carrying gun that was never used

    read it all here;

    Mark Duggan death: IPCC says it inadvertently misled media | UK news | guardian.co.uk

    the spark that ignited it all…someone gotta have read ears here.

    Man the way you put it, it sounds like a right mission. gonna have to think long and hard about this methinks!

    @!sinner69! 447356 wrote:

    Ehh back to the issue of the killing of Mark Duggan;
    read it all here;

    Mark Duggan death: IPCC says it inadvertently misled media | UK news | guardian.co.uk

    the spark that ignited it all…someone gotta have read ears here.

    whether or not this was wholly responsible for the riot, this lying is completely pointless as well – UK armed cops are authorised to fire as soon as they fear that they may encounter deadly force -whether or not the suspect fires first- and the offender was already carrying an illegal firearm. So they don’t have to cover anything up – if folk were angry enough to riot about it they would do so anyway and maybe the govt should initially have been more prepared for that.

    However armed cops shot dead a couple number of white British bank robbers a few years ago in the middle of the street before the robbers had even brought out their guns and there wasn’t any riot anywhere.

    Mark Duggen, R.I.P, they say you were bad to the bone.

    @General Lighting 447360 wrote:

    whether or not this was wholly responsible for the riot, this lying is completely pointless as well – UK armed cops are authorised to fire as soon as they fear that they may encounter deadly force -whether or not the suspect fires first- and the offender was already carrying an illegal firearm. So they don’t have to cover anything up – if folk were angry enough to riot about it they would do so anyway and maybe the govt should initially have been more prepared for that.

    However armed cops shot dead a couple number of white British bank robbers a few years ago in the middle of the street before the robbers had even brought out their guns and there wasn’t any riot anywhere.

    That’s why I don’t believe for one second these riots were motivated by his killing. I think a small criminal element used this as an excuse and people jumped on the bandwagon. Getting back to the riots, there’s been no disorder tonight has there?

    prehaps they covered it up in fear of what might happen, but then why pick a fight on clarence rd, when its uneasy there as it is.

    There has been nothing major in cities tonight. Also most of England outside cities wasn’t even affected, bar minor copycat incidents by youths. In my town some kids tried to kick off but the bulk of them were so young they were took home to their parents by cops under child protection laws :laugh_at:

    check out my video on the riot.

    @fli5star 448354 wrote:

    check out my video on the riot.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1XKgMC6Wug

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    Good video this one! But you posted a promo video in party reports and that is not so good! We have the forum rule that sez if you want to promo pay-parties or music you have to subscribe. It is only a tenner for half a year, then you are able to promo your pay stuff shamelessly, OK?

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    Many on the left are stupidly supporting these riots but it was ordinary people who were the victims of those riots, like small independent shop keepers etc and passersby who got attacked and robbed. Many people also lost their homes and possessions. So it was good to see those rioters and looters getting chased out of Eltham and Enfield by people defending their areas from attack see this: Vigilante group chasing rioters in London Enfield – YouTube! If you are pissed off with the police, the government and unemployment don’t take it out on people who are no better off than you are.

    What a fucking stupid video!

    i think this is a great idea Operation Cup of Tea Official Site | Anti-Rioting Campaign

    ps: not affiliated with them in any way … just thought its cool

    Riots in no way is a right path to achieve anything it is absolutely wrong.

    For people that wants to understand the body of a rebellion this could be a good start;

    The Rebel (book)

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This article is about the book by Albert Camus. For other works with this title, see The Rebel (disambiguation).

    The Rebel (French title: L’Homme révolté) is a 1951 book-length essay by Albert Camus, which treats both the metaphysical and the historical development of rebellion and revolution in societies, especiallyWestern Europe. Camus relates writers and artists as diverse as Epicurus and Lucretius, the Marquis de Sade, Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, Friedrich Nietzsche, André Breton and others in an integrated, historical portrait of man in revolt. Examining both rebellion and revolt, which may be seen as the same phenomenon in personal and social frames, Camus examines several ‘countercultural‘ figures and movements from the history of western thought and art, noting the importance of each in the overall development of revolutionary thought and philosophy.

    Themes

    One of Camus’ primary arguments in The Rebel concerns the motivation for rebellion and revolution. While the two acts – which can be interpreted from Camus’ writing as states of being – are radically different in most respects, they both stem from a basic human rejection of normative justice. If human beings become disenchanted with contemporary applications of justice, Camus suggests that they rebel. This rebellion, then, is the product of a basic contradiction between the human mind’s unceasing quest for clarification and the apparently meaningless nature of the world. Described by Camus as “absurd“, this latter perception must be examined with what Camus terms “lucidity.” Camus concludes that the absurd sensibility contradicts itself because when it claims to believe in nothing, it believes in its own protest and the value of the protester’s life. Therefore, this sensibility is logically a “point of departure” that irresistibly “exceeds itself.” In the inborn impulse to rebel, on the other hand, we can deduce values that enable us to determine that murder and oppression are illegitimate and conclude with “hope for a new creation.”
    Another prominent theme in The Rebel, which is tied to the notion of incipient rebellion, is the inevitable failure of attempts at human perfection. Through an examination of various titular revolutions, and in particular the French Revolution, Camus argues that most revolution has involved a fundamental denial of both history and transcendental values. Such revolutionaries aimed to kill God. In the French Revolution, for instance, this was achieved through the execution of Louis XVI and subsequent eradication of the Divine Right of Kings. The subsequent rise of Utopian and materialist idealism sought “the end of history.” Because this end is unattainable, according to Camus, terror ensued as the revolutionaries attempted to coerce results. This culminated in the “temporary” enslaving of people in the name of their future liberation. Notably, Camus’ reliance on non-secular sentiment does not involve a defence of religion; indeed, the replacement of divinely-justified morality with pragmatism simply represents Camus’ apotheosis of transcendental, moral values.
    Faced with the manifest injustices of human existence on one hand, and the poor substitute of revolution on the other, Camus’ rebel seeks to fight for justice without abandoning transcendental values, including the principle of the intrinsic value of human life. Consequently, some rebels attempt to justify their actions through a crude form of payment. As Camus argues, the Russian terrorists active in the early 20th century were prepared to offer their own lives as payment for the lives they took.
    A third is that of crime, as Camus discusses how rebels who get carried away lose touch with the original basis of their rebellion and offer various defenses of crime through various historical epochs.

    At the end of this book Camus exposes the possible moral superiority of the ethics and political plan of trade unionism.

    More info on Albert Camus here;

    Albert Camus – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Riots in Britain are nothing new Britain was hit by widespread rioting during the summer of 1981 see this: The Violators – Summer of 81 – YouTube

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