UK : LDN : London clubs and universities sign pledge against sexual harrasment
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March 13, 2014 at 3:34 pm #680834General LightingModerator
Seems like a good idea, but the only reason the clubs were allowed to allow this situation to worsen was because London is dependent on the money they bring in, in less dependent areas such as Suffolk the venues would long ago have had their licenses taken away or the fees put up higher..
For the uni students its also been exacerbated by universities distancing themselves from the social aspect (my current local uni, UCS closed down its SU bar a few years ago) – in the late 90s / 2000s a student union venue was the sort of place even the security staff would work constructively with punters and cops to prevent these incidents, as they were often themselves students (you can go to uni to study event management and various forms of security work)
Sexual harrasment was not normal in clubs when I was going to them, from around 1988 to 2009…April 5, 2014 at 1:04 am #813674Anonymous
I read an article the other day about aggressive ‘lad culrure’ and how student bars are starting to cash in on that.
They also highlighted on how ‘rapey ‘ it was, by showing a clip of a lad saying he was going to ‘rape a fresher’ and the ‘violate a fresher’ party.
Student club night investigated after video ‘promoting rape culture’ | Education | theguardian.com
Normally I wouldnt make assumptions based on something one person said (and rape jokes are s thing atm) But the promoters actually used it in their promotion video !!
Its tough. On one hand I want society to feel sexually liberated, and not ashamed of its sexuality – i think all women should be able to dress how they feel with out being labeled a slut and people assuming they are ‘asking for it’
On the otherhand I know a lot of these young women (18 – 22 in most cases) are just trying to fit in and gain their self worth from how sexually appealing they are.April 5, 2014 at 11:36 am #813676General LightingModerator
that method of promotion would never be allowed in a student union of the 1990s era. Not because the authorities stepped in but it was just unthinkable.
Even 1970s comedians never made jokes about rape, because that was rife and few got caught for it, and it would be a move that would get their show and their revenue stream eliminated.
Here in Ipswich the Council would not allow such promotions because they have dealt with the fallout of the sex worker murders.
Not only did the cops did a really good job and catch the offender comparatively quickly, by working with the Dutch Police they unearthed a toxic culture amongst young males aged 18-45 and also the older ones 45-60 where misogyny had become widespread as a backlash against the rising power of women in North European society (although they have always been powerful in traditional Germanic culture) – I’ve noticed this culture myself as I can lurk on Dutch forums where young people are and thus can see the gender divide.
A lot of confident young lads who could easily get (or had already got) girlfriends were using sex workers simply so they could have more control, as well as the older ones (the Ipswich murderer already had a long term partner and even brought some of his victims to the house they shared). It was seen as “direct action” against feminism, same as how young women might go to “stop sizewell” march (and there is a big gender imbalance on this scene).
At every club/large crowd event in Suffolk the cops seem to have to deal with at least one suspected rape every few weeks. roughly half are false allegations / lack of evidence, half are actual cases that result ni convictions. This however has the effect that both more intelligent young women and professional young men who are worried about the reputation damage of being caught up in such a case if they do manage to “pull” simply stop going out at weekends; thus reducing the night time venues revenue streams and leaving the lower social economic groups who might well start various forms of trouble. Soon enough venues start closing and licensing hours get restricted.April 5, 2014 at 3:40 pm #813675Anonymous
Yeah theres been a fair bit of backlash for feminism. I’ve only really noticed it in the cyber world with movements such as the ‘red pill’ (or the rape pill as I call it)
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