What is Ecstasy?
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December 10, 2003 at 3:49 am #710463Anonymous
I agree. People can say “Don’t Use Drugs” all they want, but reality is that people are going to use them regardless. The best thing to do is educate others about experiences and how to be safe when using drugs.
MY OPINIONS: One important thing when rolling: TAKE VITAMIN C (at least 1,000 mg) and/or VITAMIN E! They help to limit, if not eliminate neurotoxicity.
It’s good to take a little 5-HTP (about 100-200mg) before rolling to build up serotonin levels and then to take it for several days afterwards to help rebuild levels: L-Tryptophan –> 5-HTP –> Serotonin. I take 50mg of 5-HTP twice every day to help keep my serotonin levels up to improve mood and promote healthy sleep. Also, taking Vitamin B6 (up to 100mg is plenty) with 5-HTP helps your body to convert 5-HTP into serotonin.
Taking Magnesium (about 100-400mg) before rolling will help to reduce jaw clenching.
I’ve also read that taking some DLPA before or after rolling is also beneficial.
Here are several sites that will help to educate about Ecstasy use. The first one really helps you understand what is going on in your brain when you are on Ecstasy:
Watch the Slideshow: http://www.dancesafe.org/slideshow/index.html
Don’t use Ecstasy with Wellbutrin (my experience): http://www.rxlist.com/rxboard/wellbutrin.pl?read=2614
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro01/web2/Flannagan.htmlDecember 10, 2003 at 4:21 am #710702
General Lighting Wrote
“Also if an EU country tries to do “liberal” stuff with drugs they get the USA complaining to the embassy, and the USA threatens to remove financial investment from that country or launch trade sanctions against this.”
I have to agree, A big fuck off to American Drug Policy !!!
They not only seem content with persecuting their own, but think they know what’s best for everyone else too.
Have a look at this website if you are at all interested in the drug war in America,
There is alot going on at the moment by the look of it, anti rave laws etc…
Anyone seen that movie ‘Grass – a history of marijuana’?December 19, 2003 at 2:23 am #710464Anonymous
Originally posted by bela
Unfortunately, the responsibility does lie with us.
Yeah, I wish that I could rely on my peers (I’m 40) or even a generation younger than me, to dish out information, and no not the …. ‘drugs are bad for you… you will die’ or ‘you will end up in a life of crime trying to sustain you habit’ type of information.
The thing with pills or e’s on MDMA is the fact that it has not been recognised officially, therefore, there are no ‘official’ studies or medical surveys in to the effects of useage/over use/constant use……… USE. FULL STOP.
So, regrettably, yes, responsibility at this time in point, and in previous years, does fall on us……. for the simple fact……. we seem to know more about the effects/side effects/after effects than most!
And not through choice!!!
Stay safe x
I agree with you. I think that e users are guinea pigs in on going research. Also, from what i can see, people are poly drug using – combining e with ketamine,and/or cocaine, going on to cocaine, amphetamines or halucenogens, for example. The effects of combinations in the long term is also open to debate. At the end of the day we are all responsible for what we do, it is up the indivdual to try and make informed choices.
Be safe, look after yourselves and your friends.March 24, 2004 at 9:26 pm #710465Anonymous
MAN NE ONE THATS WANTS TO BE A HIPACRIT ABOUT X CAN GO TO HELL WHEN YOU TAKE X A WHOLE NOTHER WORLD INLIGHTS YOUR EYES ITS GREAT IF ONLY EVERYDAY LIFE WAS AS GREAT AS WHEN YOU TOOK X THIS WORLD WOULD HAVE NO HATE
JENNOMarch 25, 2004 at 4:04 pm #710466Anonymous
yes i would be nice if every was like on mdma but would you remember to eat and drink?
i think not…
you wouldn’t be able to funktion normally 😉March 26, 2004 at 11:27 am #710467Anonymous
Originally posted by Unregistered
yes i would be nice if every was like on mdma but would you remember to eat and drink?
i think not…
you wouldn’t be able to funktion normally 😉
the above is from me..
forgot to write “day” 🙂March 29, 2004 at 5:21 pm #710710
well, i love taking mdma. i also enjoy my job, like the open university degree i’m taking, have gorgeous girlfriend, and good relationship with my family.
it wasn’t always like this though…
moderation is, obviously, the key to the door
happy daysOctober 28, 2004 at 3:46 pm #710600
A nasty incident; but sadly one that is all too common on the streets these days
Whilst in the “old skool” days E was usually taken in a “set and setting” which encouraged PLUR (and this is usually still the case at most decent free parties), when it is taken on the mean streets of London no doubt anything can (and does) happen – including violence and murder 🙁
E is no longer the “love” drug these days; I have heard of people in my own city who take it even before situations where they may get in a fight; and they claim that it helps them fight as much as it would help them dance!
Even a friend of mine who is part of a local crew and would never normally resort to violence was invovled in a potentially nasty situation whilst pilled up; and told me the effect of the drug would easily help him to deal with the attacker…
I don’t think this at all scaremongering – I can easily see how instead of a rush of good feelings, a rush of hate surged through that lad’s mind which drove him to use the blade to end the life of his rival.
Now he will have a very long comedown in HMP……Quote:A 17-year-old boy who was high on ecstasy when he killed Cheam teenager Michael O’Connor faces a life sentence after pleading guilty to his murder. The youth, who cannot be named for legal reasons, stabbed Mr O’Connor, 18, in the Broadway, Cheam, in the early hours of May 1.
He was taken to St Helier Hospital where he died from wounds to his chest and stomach.
The Old Bailey heard last Wednesday (October 20) how the youth had a grudge against Mr O’Connor after a previous incident in which he spat at the youth’s 13-year-old sister.
Henry Blaxland QC, appearing for the defence, said the youth “just flipped”, grabbed a knife from a friend’s pocket and lunged at Mr O’Connor after meeting him by chance at a bus stop.
Mr Blaxland said an ecstasy pill taken hours before the unprovoked attack was the obvious explanation.
“It is perfectly clear that it played quite an important part in what happened.
“He believes that something was said by the deceased but he does accept that it is possible he is wrong about that and simply misinterpreted what was happening.
“He says he disliked taking ecstasy in the past because it made him hyperactive and violent.”
Floral tributes were laid at the spot close to Whitehall, Cheam’s historic landmark, where Mr O’Connor collapsed in the street after the attack.
The former Wimbledon College pupil, of Donnington Road, had been due to attend an interview at Carshalton College to train as a motor mechanic when he died.
The youth, who fled the scene after the attack, gave himself up to police the following morning and admitted stabbing Mr O’Connor.
He was remanded in custody after last week’s hearing for pre-sentence reports, but was warned by Judge Giles Forrester he faced a life sentence.
The youth is due to be sentenced at the Old Bailey on November 10.
By Nina JacobsNovember 2, 2004 at 1:21 pm #710468Anonymous
XTC mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I love living in Holland. (3 euro’s)November 4, 2004 at 3:00 pm #710469Anonymous
Ah, E is savage…has anyone taken those star ones that are doing the rounds…they blow the head off ya…proper order, I already have mine ordered for the weekend !November 4, 2004 at 7:19 pm #710470Anonymous
dextromethorphan is where it’s at, I’d rather trip my nuts off on that shit anyday. Fuck all you raver pussiesNovember 4, 2004 at 7:42 pm #710711
Originally posted by dextrometh
dextromethorphan is where it’s at, I’d rather trip my nuts off on that shit anyday. Fuck all you raver pussies
Hmm, the positive effects of DXM could be described as feelings of euphoria, giggling, laughing, dissociation of mind from body, creative dreamlike experiences, empathetic feelings, forgiveness, warm feelings towards others.
Questionably desirable are the feelings of disorientation, altered skin sensitivity, “robo-walk”, discoordination, decreased sexual functioning
I want to go home!
Less pleasant altogether is the upset stomach, vomiting, dizzyness, body itching, red blotchy skin, diahrrea, fever, tachycardia (racing, pounding heart), some users report feeling disconnected, isolated from others or downright discombobulated
Cup of tEa, anybody?November 5, 2004 at 2:10 pm #710601
The DXM effects are very similar to those of ketamine in small doses – ISTR the active substance may be chemically related?
That said the phenomenon of DXM use appears to be an American thing; to a great extent caused by the authorities in the US being so determined at prohibition efforts ( a bit more so than Europe, even though they will not win).
You can buy robitussin at any of the ironically-named “drug stores”; whilst other recreational substances appear (from the anecdotes on the net of US drug users) to be hard to get or expensive in some areas ; presumably the dealers have to compensate for an increased risk.
Not surprising if there are loads of cops with guns, vigilantes with guns and other dealers with guns – a large helping of good ol’ apple and paranoia pie.November 5, 2004 at 2:33 pm #710712
about 10 years ago I was living in Israel and quite a few ‘travellers’ and transient workers had some problems with a cough syrup called Tussedine that contains DXM. (regular users had an in-joke that was used first thing in the morning and went something like “what day is it?” “It’s Tussday”)
I was buying something from the pharmacy one day and an English guy walked in and asked for 30+ bottles of Tussedine. The pharmacist didn’t bat an eyelid. “that’s one fuck of a cough you got mate” I thought. “My parents just wired me some money” he said, reading my thoughts.
Aaaaaaannnyway. I read somewhere a comparison / contrast between serotonin raising drugs/psycadelics (E, LSD) and disassociatives (K, DXM).
The E’s and trips can be compared to birth… hightened senses, noticing details, awareness of the external universe. The disassociatives can be compared to death… the realisation of the internal universe.
Both, ultimately can lead you to the same place (loss of ego, new perspectives etc). The question is… which scenery do you prefer?
😉November 18, 2004 at 3:34 pm #710602
An Old Bailey jury have found the defendant guilty – the judge has handed down a life sentence with minimum 7 year tarriff (he may get parole after this)
The victims father claimed it was not enough – and to be restrained in Court by cops and security after attempting to attack the defendant who sat just metres from him.
But 7 years is still a long time without your freedom…. and even after that he will still have to look over his shoulder.
And whilst I would never advocate murder for something so trivial; having been a bit more angry and turbulent a few years ago I can see the trigger point to this crime…..
I too have a younger sister, and if anyone was bad to her I would do something about it and challenge the person who did it I I met them in the street. i can easily see how the influence of mood-altering drugs could make someone use more force than they usually would, and not think of the long-term consequences.
Its a tragedy though – two families will be enemies for evermore because of this…
Other than in self defence or the defence of those you love from a real and present threat, violence is never acceptable in a civilised society, whatever state of mind you may be in. Know your feelings – and know your limits!
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