I have had a burning desire to explore the psychedelic realm for about 3 years now, trying this, that, and the other, but the closest I got was either being super stoned, or Robitussin.
I’ve found a site that distributes 4-aco-dmt, (pretty much chemical shrooms for those of you who don’t know)
20 dollars for 100 mg, but heres the catch, I still live with my parents.
Yeah.
So I would have to invest 30 dollars in a PO box, to get this shipped to me.
Than theres the matter of having a very accurate scale, so as not to take too much and have too intense of a trip.
I would be spending around 60 dollars (I don’t have a steady job, so this is sort of a large amount of money for me)
Now for my question, “Is it worth it? Is the experience that incredible? Do I want to spend 60 dollars on this?”
Given your current situation, I would have to say no. In my opinion.
Getting laid / your own pad / own keys / own way of life would be much higher on my list of priorities than going on trip via psychedelics.
Then again, maybe you are stuck where you are due to a medical condition and are seeking release in a chemical form, so I hope somebody more versed in the chemical hallucinogens can give you more informed advice.
can’t move out, no job
Have you considered running off to join a hippie commune for a while? Might solve the issue without actually spending money?
Get a job…………..
I’ve had dozens of jobs, some lasted for a day, some for years, but when people say they cant get a job that really pisses me off because I know from much experience that when I need one and go full at it, it never takes me more than a week to get one, and no Im not some genius, barely average GCSE results, no unique in-demand skills or talents, just a willingness to work and ethos of paying my own way & self reliance, I simply couldnt live on handouts.
I wouldn’t recommend doing psys at your parents house (well, not while they are there anyway) if things go a bit pear-shaped they could possibly see you doing some very strange shit and get scared. They may call an ambulance or even try to get you sectioned.
Go round a mate’s house or somewhere else where you won’t be disturbed.
I suspect you are way younger than your profile age (BTW its better to use your correct age and set the privacy settings as that protects you and the volunteers who run the forum) – its not worth it for the amount of hassle/paranoia involved.
The very fact you felt you had to lie about your age here means you already feel insecure/guilty about something. I can understand that as you are not in a liberal European country where teenagers / young adults can openly discuss their drug use without major reprisals unless they are glorifying or admitting to serious crime, but that also means that you are going to feel more insecure/guilty when taking these drugs, and that can make things worse.
wait until you are in college or in some environment where you can be away from your parents and with good friends in a safe place and do this stuff there. its not going to suddenly disappear overnight, there will be plenty of time. if you take too much too young you will burn out and get bored of it all at age 25 anyway like a lot of my young friends have done.
do it. dont listen to these bunch of whiners (sory guys) giving uppity ethical advice on the way u should live… split 100mg into 3 or 4 hits, find some beautiful place, you’ll have an amazing time… if you’re parents question, tell them you’re too busy dancing the fandango and they’re out of lube
@Mezz 510731 wrote:
Get a job…………..
I’ve had dozens of jobs, some lasted for a day, some for years, but when people say they cant get a job that really pisses me off because I know from much experience that when I need one and go full at it, it never takes me more than a week to get one, and no Im not some genius, barely average GCSE results, no unique in-demand skills or talents, just a willingness to work and ethos of paying my own way & self reliance, I simply couldnt live on handouts.
im the same it annoys me too, when i need one i also get one within the week.
the ones that say they ”can’t get a job” are refusing to scrub toilets or pack boxes imo.
hmm surely max isn’t planning to sit at home and do this stuff anyway (which would be boring, scarey or just unpleasant) – nor do this stuff alone in some random place as that can be unpleasant too especially for a first trip and positively dangerous in some where like urban areas of the USA and must have college age friends he can trust with more liberal parents?
At least in Europe, techie/hacker types regularly get parcels, padded bags etc delivered to their houses, which contain components for projects. they might even have scales of such things.
Ok this is verging on film/movie sterotypes but isn’t there one kid in his circle of friends who has a room full of electronics/computer kit / music stuff with “liberal/hippy” type parents and folk hang out round his/her house? TBH we used to do that in England anyway (and it was usually them who could get the drugs and parents either were oblivious to it or turned a blind eye (or even shared them :laugh_at:))
@know_hope 510821 wrote:
do it. dont listen to these bunch of whiners (sory guys) giving uppity ethical advice on the way u should live… split 100mg into 3 or 4 hits, find some beautiful place,
if he ain’t got a job he won’t be able to afford a plane ticket..
seriously though this is more a case of potential harm reduction rather than anything else. He’s not a teenager in liberal Europe, this is a country where in some areas property rights are worth more than right to life. walk onto the wrong persons private land when tripping and they might shoot at you (whilst this can happen even in some European countries its far rarer and there are usually warnings given).
OK california may be more liberal but times are desparate, and even if its only some granny lady calling 911 and the cops haul his ass to the station parents tend not to be too happy about this sort of thing.
@General Lighting 510826 wrote:
if he ain’t got a job he won’t be able to afford a plane ticket..seriously though this is more a case of potential harm reduction rather than anything else. He’s not a teenager in liberal Europe, this is a country where in some areas property rights are worth more than right to life. walk onto the wrong persons private land when tripping and they might shoot at you. OK california may be more liberal. but times are desparate….
split it into 5 or even 6 if u r concerned… and you’ll still be able to socialise… i haven’t done this psy, but i’ve done 4-ho-mipt which is also quite mushroomy and i did about 25mg at a festi and it was great and i had no troubles interacting… so do this one if u want to try one that someone has done, but others here have done 4-aco-dmt and its next on my list along with dmt… and sometimes with these psy’s, its controversial, but you may even learn something, about yourself, about society, about existence, which imo is more beneficial and less harmful than drinking lots, being at risk of violence and drunk driving… just go out somewhere, with friends if possible but without can be really good to if u know where to be safe. if u do a low enough dose u can mingle in all your usual spaces, just with a new perspective… if u know where there’s a quiet spot, go to the beach at night and look at the moon… obviously this is not you’re usual harm reduction speech, and if u want to truly be safe, well unfortunately life doesn’t actually offer that, you’re at risk every second, every moment, but its up to u to decide if its a risk worth taking… i’d say life is a risk worth taking, lol… like, obviously take care 😉
@Pat McDonald 510715 wrote:
Given your current situation, I would have to say no. In my opinion.
Getting laid
wtf
Yes guys, I am underage, I’m actually 15 years old. That is why I cannot get a job.
I just tried getting a PO box, and it didn’t work out.
Only options left are either ordering it to my house, and intercepting it before my parents get it.
Or, finding a friend who is cool with me sending the package to his house.
I would love to join some kind of hippie commune, but almost all the people I’ve met would never take psychedelics. I have no idea were all the hippies are xD
Do you think I should just send it to my house under a different name, and if I fuck up and my parents receive it, I can blame it on the wrong address?
@maxhaxmax 510832 wrote:
Yes guys, I am underage, I’m actually 15 years old. That is why I cannot get a job.
mwahaha…
if i was a parent i’d want my kid to tell me if they wanted to do something like this so i could provide a safe passage… and also so i could wait till their tripping and then put on some really out of date music like hard house and show em my dad dance!
thats actually normal behaviour for East Anglia. Strangely enough, most of the teenage kids don’t even want to do drugs 😉
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