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  • Well when I done acid in school days I did the same as everyone else my age, went up the mountain and camped out, stars, bonfire, booze, tunes and tripping off our faces…………….. also round my cousins flat, and various friends houses when they’re parents were out/away but the mountain was the best one : )

    Of course the money front wasnt an issue, strawberries were only £3 each, mircodots I think were £4, and we once got a whole page of wagon wheels at £1 each !!! Paper rounds pocket money paid for those lol

    I know how you feel bro but honestly, you should leave that is shit alone at your age. i know its clique and boring but honestly there are better things to be doing at 15..just have some beers and smoke some ganja for the next few years. these research chemicals could well do some damage to a developing brain. i don’t know anyone that would sell a 15 year old anything stronger than smoke, and there is a reason for that. just leave the harder stuff alone till you are outta school and holding down a job 🙂

    Why leave the harder stuff alone? I get leaving alone stuff like, meth, coke, heroin. But psychedelics are some of the least harmful drugs there are, why are you all telling me not to use them?

    Its not really due to the drug, just the stage of life you are at. i think the harmfulness factor of individual drugs are concluded based on the assumption that the user has a fully developed brain and is of age. at a time when your brain is still developing, i think it is risky to mess with any substances that alter its chemistry. even many PRO-cannabis researchers have published evidence that underage users intelligence, attention and memory can be harmed. and cannabis is a very light drug compared to research chems of any kind. dont get me wrong – at your age i didn’t give much of a toss either. but only a few years later i am kind of regretting that already

    Obviously i’m not advocating anything here but when i was 12 or so and i ran a website hosting company (fucking entrepeneur lads!)
    I actually bought 500g of KNO3 (Potassium Nitrate) a zippo lighter, and a fuckton of lighter fluid so that i could make some big ass smoke bombs.
    I actually managed to get the lighter, lighter fluid i wasn’t in to intercept, and my mum found half a kilo of what she thought was cocaine or something LOL.
    I’m pretty sure if you just put someone elses name on it and remove any trace of purchasing said chemical (Make sure you use the same details to purchase the said chemical that will be place on the package, thats how i was caught out 🙁 )

    coke=no. weed=yes.

    @finalproposition 510876 wrote:

    and cannabis is a very light drug compared to research chems of any kind

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    i liked some of this post, caring, and i would agree that many decisions drug and other we make in youth we end up paying for later on, like at 13 my decision to smoke was one that i would definitely not do if had some hindsight. but this quoted statement is babble. 1) i don’t think cannabis is a light drug, and also its v easy to get into a habit with and it encourages smoking which makes it addictive and dirty. 2) ‘research chems’ is quite a misleading term. although some have been ‘researched,’ it seems to just mean ‘other synthetic drugs’ and includes tryptamines (psys), stimulants, benzo’s, dissociatives etc. for example camfetamine is a research chem and has similar properties to caffeine. many of these tryptamines alexander shulgin researched and you can see what he wrote here Erowid Online Books : “TIHKAL” – #22 4-HO-MIPT. i found 4-ho-mipt to be light in terms of mental weight compared with psilocybe mushrooms.

    @know_hope 510935 wrote:

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    i liked some of this post, caring, and i would agree that many decisions drug and other we make in youth we end up paying for later on, like at 13 my decision to smoke was one that i would definitely not do if had some hindsight. but this quoted statement is babble. 1) i don’t think cannabis is a light drug, and also its v easy to get into a habit with and it encourages smoking. 2) ‘research chems’ is quite a misleading term. although some have been ‘researched,’ it seems to just mean ‘other synthetic drugs’ and includes tryptamines (psys), stimulants, benzo’s, dissociatives etc. for example camfetamine is a research chem and has similar properties to caffeine. many of these tryptamines alexander shulgin researched and you can see what he wrote here Erowid Online Books : “TIHKAL” – #22 4-HO-MIPT. i found 4-ho-mipt to be light in terms of mental weight compared with psilocybe mushrooms.

    lolz… dunno what rcs this dudes been doing probably UK stim filth. I’ve never had a problem with RCs i found the tryptamines amazingly clean and not addictive at all.. proper good stuff. Though weed i had issues with in my younger days it’s very habit forming stuff. But I suppose we’ll never stop hearing from the weed users who like to think it’s a holy sacrament from god himself and it’s oh so natural even though it just grew in some cupboard under very unnatural conditions…

    @maxhaxmax 510713 wrote:

    I have had a burning desire to explore the psychedelic realm for about 3 years now, trying this, that, and the other, but the closest I got was either being super stoned, or Robitussin.

    lol i had an ego loss amazing mindblowing trip on my first attempt on psychedelics 6-7 years ago with acid. what the hell have you been doing for 3 years?

    @p0ly 510937 wrote:

    lol i had an ego loss amazing mindblowing trip on my first attempt on psychedelics 6-7 years ago with acid. what the hell have you been doing for 3 years?

    :rolleyes:

    @p0ly 510937 wrote:

    lol i had an ego loss amazing mindblowing trip on my first attempt on psychedelics 6-7 years ago with acid. what the hell have you been doing for 3 years?

    middle school / junior high?

    Some (all?) areas of the USA have a extra type of school (still found in some bits of England, though in Suffolk they got abolished a few years ago) from age 10-13. Similar schools are found worldwide. For obvious reasons the local authorities / feds are really heavy about keeping drugs (legal or illegal) and drugs culture out of these places, as its the important first stage of growing up.

    In my teens some old hippies up where sinner69! lives published “the little red schoolbook” which first got banned/censored but eventually translated into English and I found a copy here at a anarchist bookshop (which was like a dead tree version of partyvibe, as the Internet wasn’t released to normal people yet and few people even had computers outside big organisations).

    even that warned you against starting on drugs in your teens. it wasn’t because you would OD and die or go mad and be put in the crazy house or childrens home (which even in Europe was not a good place to be in the 1980s as it was usually run by the local upper class nonces) but because even though anarchists and hippies disagreed with the way youths are judged by competitive exams and rote learning, that was the case then and is still the case today.

    the risk from serious, major mental health problems due to drugs per se is minimal TBH, even for young teenage users. the physical health problems aren’t that much of a risk either (within reason, smoking 40 a day at 11 won’t do you much good..)

    What really causes the problems to drug users (from their teens to young adulthood) is that they take them, the fun/distraction factor delays them achieving life goals in the timescales their parents, educators or even their peers expect them to, they are then judged and criticised by folk what are supposed to care for them and empathise with them and that is what adversely affects young peoples mental health.

    @General Lighting 510940 wrote:

    middle school / junior high?
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    pardon?

    i understand what you are saying but perhaps i should explain the context; i meant ‘light’ in the way that having a can or larger or two is ‘light’ compared to going on a 6 hour psychedelic trip! i didnt mean to suggest that it doesn’t have potential harms and risks if mis-used. By research chem i mean substances that are relatively un-tested, and still being ‘researched’. much of the pharmacology and effects on the brain are still theorized and suggested. from what i’ve read, 4-AcO-DMT falls under this catagory. Personally, i just think it would be irresponsible to encourage a 15 year old to take such a substance.

    @p0ly 510943 wrote:

    pardon?

    he may only recently have finished that bit of his schooling and it takes time for attitudes to change. I know when I was 13-14 I didn’t want anything to do with drugs, but my attitudes changed just a year or so later. in any case there are risks in starting when you are still at the age where compulsory education is required. its actually a major dilemma to liberal minded folk who indulged in their own youth but are now parents as although you can of course retake exams etc a few times society still expects certain levels of educational process by certain ages.

    drugs don’t make anyone stupid but they change your thought processes to not be able to focus intently on one thing when you find it boring which unfortunately is still what age 11-18 education is based around.

    @finalproposition 510964 wrote:

    i understand what you are saying but perhaps i should explain the context; i meant ‘light’ in the way that having a can or larger or two is ‘light’ compared to going on a 6 hour psychedelic trip! i didnt mean to suggest that it doesn’t have potential harms and risks if mis-used. By research chem i mean substances that are relatively un-tested, and still being ‘researched’. much of the pharmacology and effects on the brain are still theorized and suggested. from what i’ve read, 4-AcO-DMT falls under this catagory. Personally, i just think it would be irresponsible to encourage a 15 year old to take such a substance.

    in comparison, there’s nothing light about weed and its main constituent THC is psychoactive. if ingested, it will also produce a ‘trip.’ sure, a couple of beers won’t do a lot. i think people could do with waking up a bit about how cannabis can affect someone and the potential habit that can form.

    as for psys, this is a quote from ben sessa, a consultant psychiatrist at bristol uni: ‘The classical hallucinogens are non-addictive, physiologically non-toxic substances, which may offer the user an experience of self-reflection through exposure to personal existential issues. They facilitate a deeper access to repressed parts of the psyche

    i’d say that it’d be far less harmful to have one light-moderate psychedelic experience a few times a year than to consistently use cannabis and thats not even considering the dirty smoking side of it. that said, imo if someone could manage it, non-habitual use of cannabis (not considering smoking aspect) could be beneficial and harmless, as long as you’re not one of the unlucky ones carrying a hereditary psychotic dysfunction. i feel like i learned a lot through cannabis, but i also started at a young age and smoked every day and it messed me up a bit, but im quite ok now :crazy:

    anyhow, my point is drug comparison. we all want to know the truth and we live in a time when propaganda has warped many minds for ‘who knows what’ ulterior motive. whatever age you are, if you’re capable of making decisions then you’ll also have to bear the consequences of those decisions whether you’re 15 or 50. some 15 yr olds have acute reasoning, some 50yr olds dont know their thumb from their dick. i’d agree that during the teenage years the brain may be more fragile, and also that this is a time of personality development, but i wouldn’t suggest smoking cannabis to be a better alternative

    ben sessa article – http://www.neurosoup.com/articles/_notes/palliativecarejournalsessa.pdf

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