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  • @know_hope 510821 wrote:

    split 100mg into 3 or 4 hits,

    A 25mg/33mg first time experience?? I have to say, im sorry but I think thats reckless advice. My 18mg experience felt stronger than an eigth of mushrooms, so suggesting 33mg is like suggesting over 6 grams. (Unless the stuff you get is cut/weak)

    6 grams is a dose im sure you would be happy to do, but not for a first timer who is considoring taking them at home with parents around.

    @TheStealthyRacoon 511385 wrote:

    A 25mg/33mg first time experience?? I have to say, im sorry but I think thats reckless advice. My 18mg experience felt stronger than an eigth of mushrooms, so suggesting 33mg is like suggesting over 6 grams. (Unless the stuff you get is cut/weak)

    6 grams is a dose im sure you would be happy to do, but not for a first timer who is considoring taking them at home with parents around.

    what are you talking about? i’m guessing 4-ho-mipt? 25-33mg i’d definitely recommend. I did 20mg on my first go and i’d easily do 35mg next time i try it. higher dose psy experiences are better IMO. I really do not think 33mg would be like 6g shrooms tbf. but i hope we’re talking about mipt here i looked back a page but cba to go any further.

    @p0ly 511387 wrote:

    what are you talking about? i’m guessing 4-ho-mipt? 25-33mg i’d definitely recommend. I did 20mg on my first go and i’d easily do 35mg next time i try it. higher dose psy experiences are better IMO. I really do not think 33mg would be like 6g shrooms tbf. but i hope we’re talking about mipt here i looked back a page but cba to go any further.

    Well in the OP he was talking about 4-aco-dmt. If “know-hope” was suddenly reffering to 4-ho and I have the wrong end of the stick I apologise; I think a suggestion of 25 or 33mg dose of 4-ho is not unreasonable

    I’d never dose below 25mg for 4-aco-dmt personally. and 30-40mg is what i’d go for… if i thought they were a noob noob then 20mg… though even if they were a first timer but they didn’t seem like a noob i’d defo give em 25-30. just me though.

    yeah i’ve been frequenting online forums for years and i can tell the difference between correcting somebody politely, and coming across as a pretentious tosser. some people on this one seem to have trouble..

    @finalproposition 511421 wrote:

    yeah i’ve been frequenting online forums for years and i can tell the difference between correcting somebody politely, and coming across as a pretentious tosser. some people on this one seem to have trouble..

    Wowey chill your boots, not everybody is gonna agree. You advise a 15 year old never to take any psys and any answer other than ‘NO’ should be bashed… yet smoking weed and drinking beer is ok, i find that pretty silly… especially as weed is a psychedelic… go eat a load of weed and see how trippy it gets.

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    Don’t let it get to you and if it does, don’t post?

    not everybody is gonna agree.

    yeah, there is nothing wrong with disagreeing; it is the way people put it.

    You advise a 15 year old never to take any psys

    nope..

    weed is a psychedelic

    and we both know, its nowhere near as strong and trippy as conventional ‘trips’ like the one OP is considering. i have smoke tons of weed and never had effects even close to psilocybin.

    at the end of the day; i thought it best for this forum and the reputation of its members to discourage underage drug use. obviously i was wrong, and i apologize.

    In my experience weed is much worse then any psy and this is coming from a 16 year old with experience in both.
    Shrooms cleaned me and healed me, weed although at times it can motivate me etc and i find it great for exercise, just becomes habiutal and after a while you just become anxious and paranoid.
    Only bad shroom trip i had was.. wait i haven’t had a bad shroom trip

    @p0ly 511396 wrote:

    I’d never dose below 25mg for 4-aco-dmt personally. and 30-40mg is what i’d go for… if i thought they were a noob noob then 20mg… though even if they were a first timer but they didn’t seem like a noob i’d defo give em 25-30. just me though.

    Fair enough, its personal prefrence as to what you think would be a good dose for someone.

    I would love to give someone 7g dried as a first dose and for them to have a positive and truley out of this world introduction to tripping, but I wouldnt do it because it just worth doing a normal dose first to ensure they do not do damage to themselves (body or mind).

    I think you are underestimating the strength of 4-aco, have you tried it yourself?
    I would not give a noob noob 4g of mushrooms nor 20mg 4-aco and although it is forgiving in high doses, many have had a bad time by thinking “This speck is supposed to make me trip? BS, lets double that” and end up being completly overpowerd.

    @Deezl 511451 wrote:

    In my experience weed is much worse then any psy and this is coming from a 16 year old with experience in both.
    Shrooms cleaned me and healed me, weed although at times it can motivate me etc and i find it great for exercise, just becomes habiutal and after a while you just become anxious and paranoid.
    Only bad shroom trip i had was.. wait i haven’t had a bad shroom trip

    Sadly we are dealing with a pro weeder. They will never back down on the holy sacrament!

    I too think weed is much harsher on the body and brain than mushrooms. In fact when I’m tripping off weed I feel extremely stressed and anxious and run down and I never get that from psilocybin. finalp i just completely disagree with you, don’t take it personal i’m sure there are things people will agree with you on but you don’t have to take it all to heart and blame it on the forum.

    you go on to say about discouraging underage drug use yet earlier you said to drink and smoke weed, so what are you talking about? very confusing.

    @p0ly 511470 wrote:

    Sadly we are dealing with a pro weeder. They will never back down on the holy sacrament!

    I too think weed is much harsher on the body and brain than mushrooms. In fact when I’m tripping off weed I feel extremely stressed and anxious and run down and I never get that from psilocybin. finalp i just completely disagree with you, don’t take it personal i’m sure there are things people will agree with you on but you don’t have to take it all to heart and blame it on the forum.

    you go on to say about discouraging underage drug use yet earlier you said to drink and smoke weed, so what are you talking about? very confusing.

    It’s funny because i used to be the same, not to say that im anti weed now, infact i quite enjoy it but its definately not something you can take daily like a lot of people do (i was never that bad though..) because it just makes you so complacent and it takes the fun out of the drug. It’s also drug abuse, no matter how much stoners try and glorify it but i guess “ITS JUST A PLANT MAN!”. That whole argument line is bs lol..

    Yup, mushrooms i didnt have any bad effects at all – a tiny bit of anxiety coming up but that was just fear of the unknown as i’d never taken a proper psy before. Every time after it was like greeting an old friend who you haven’t seen for ages. In my opinion & experience, shrooms are only beneficial.

    Also your third point i agree with – alcohol is a lot more damaging then psys or even weed, i’d never encourage someone to take it, but its so ingrained into people in society. Imo alcohol is only nice every now and then, and even then only a few beers/ciders, real relaxing and euphoric.

    I like to have a pint of beer before a big meal, helps a lot i find and is the perfect drink to wash food down with.

    Fair play, each to their own.

    @TheStealthyRacoon 511385 wrote:

    A 25mg/33mg first time experience?? I have to say, im sorry but I think thats reckless advice. My 18mg experience felt stronger than an eigth of mushrooms, so suggesting 33mg is like suggesting over 6 grams. (Unless the stuff you get is cut/weak)

    6 grams is a dose im sure you would be happy to do, but not for a first timer who is considoring taking them at home with parents around.

    if u read my posts (im not suggesting u should have but if u did) i said split into 5 or 6 if u wana be cautious. i haven’t done this psy yet, but p0ly has, its next on my tryptamine list. ive done 4 ho mipt few times and as said before had 20mg at a festi and it was mild fun. most of these tryptamine psys are not so crazy in low dose, they dont send u west like mushrooms, and they dont have that heavy weight, they feel somewhat synthetic, not sure if that is a placebo of knowing they are but they do feel it. its like u trip but u keep your head. i haven’t tried high doses yet.

    @finalproposition 511421 wrote:

    yeah i’ve been frequenting online forums for years and i can tell the difference between correcting somebody politely, and coming across as a pretentious tosser. some people on this one seem to have trouble..

    this is a nice place and if u look i was courteous towards you and gave some positive to part of your initial post, but i strongly disagreed with what advice you were giving and felt your views that weed was lighter than any rc to be unfounded, that doesn’t mean i have a personal agenda with u, im not into that. there may be banter here and comments may be direct but there’s no need to take it personally… also, if u look, u r the only one using insults; tosser, imbecile… lots of nice ppl here actually, chill n forget about it, enjoy ur stay 😉

    @p0ly 511470 wrote:

    Sadly we are dealing with a pro weeder. They will never back down on the holy sacrament!

    lets give him some credit for a valiant effort for he has fought gallantly.. but as always with light against dark and the will of allah, some backup stoners will have surely been summoned and shall arrive shortly to help this young stouthearted paladin defend the holy weed from the charlatans of darkness… possibly the great ambassador pat has some wise words to share at this juncture?

    I have given you all the seed bearing plants on earth to use

    Not a religious man, but I do like a bit of Cypress Hill and love da weed : )

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