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Project MK-ULTRA, or MKULTRA, was the code name for a covert, illegal CIA human research program, run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence. This official U.S. government program began in the early 1950s, continuing at least through the late 1960s, and it used United States and Canadian citizens as its test subjects. The published evidence indicates that Project MK-ULTRA involved the surreptitious use of many types of drugs, as well as other methods, to manipulate individual mental states and to alter brain function.
Project MK-ULTRA was first brought to wide public attention in 1975 by the U.S. Congress, through investigations by the Church Committee, and by a presidential commission known as the Rockefeller Commission. Investigative efforts were hampered by the fact that CIA Director Richard Helms ordered all MK-ULTRA files destroyed in 1973; the Church Committee and Rockefeller Commission investigations relied on the sworn testimony of direct participants and on the relatively small number of documents that survived Helms’ destruction order.
Although the CIA insists that MK-ULTRA-type experiments have been abandoned, 14-year CIA veteran Victor Marchetti has stated in various interviews that the CIA routinely conducts disinformation campaigns and that CIA mind control research continued. In a 1977 interview, Marchetti specifically called the CIA claim that MK-ULTRA was abandoned a “cover story.”
On the Senate floor in 1977, Senator Ted Kennedy said:
The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over thirty universities and institutions were involved in an “extensive testing and experimentation” program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens “at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign.” Several of these tests involved the administration of LSD to “unwitting subjects in social situations.” At least one death, that of Dr. Olson, resulted from these activities. The Agency itself acknowledged that these tests made little scientific sense. The agents doing the monitoring were not qualified scientific observers.
To this day most specific information regarding Project MKULTRA remains highly classified.
Project MKULTRA – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
But they were given the hallucinogen in mind control tests, and some volunteers had terrifying hallucinations.
The Foreign Office said the secret intelligence body MI6 had made the settlements after legal advice.
The out-of-court settlements are thought to be under £10,000 for each of the men.
In a statement issued later to the BBC News website, the Ministry of Defence said it did not make any admission of liability in respect of the settlements.
The statement added: “The Ministry of Defence is very grateful to all those whose participation in studies at Porton Down made possible the research to provide safe and effective protection for UK Armed Forces.”
A spokesman for the Foreign Office, which oversees MI6, said: “The settlement offers were made to the government on behalf of the three claimants which, on legal advice, and in the particular circumstances of these cases, the government thinks it appropriate to accept.”
The men had volunteered for experiments at the government’s chemical warfare research base at Porton Down in Wiltshire in 1953 and 1954.
Following the settlement, Don Webb, who was a 19-year-old airman at the time, told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “I think they grudgingly acknowledged that they did something wrong.
“They stick to the old maxim: never apologise, never explain. But I think in this case they have decided to pay some money. I think that is as near to an apology or an explanation I’ll get.”
Both he and fellow serviceman Logan Marr, a former shepherd from the Scottish highlands, suffered hallucinations after they were asked to drink a clear liquid.
The third man did not wish to be named.
The research was carried out after British and American governments thought the Soviet Union had developed a “truth drug” which could compel spies and servicemen to yield up important secrets.
MI6 scientists decided to test LSD, the closest thing they thought they had to a truth drug, on volunteers to see how they reacted.
‘Volunteers programme’
Alan Care, a lawyer who represented the three men, said: “As far as we are aware, these are the first settlements by the secret intelligence services for a personal injury action.”
He added that a request that documents relating to the case be put into the public domain had been refused.
Some volunteers at the base did not find out they had been given LSD until 50 years later. Thousands of servicemen and women have volunteered in the testing of defences against chemical and biological attacks at the Wiltshire military base.
Research began in 1916 using a “volunteers programme”, and up to 20,000 people took part in various trials in the 50 years up to 1989.
Last October, the government was found guilty of breaching the human rights of former soldier Thomas Roche, who claimed he developed health problems as a result of mustard gas and nerve agent tests in 1962 and 1963.
BBC NEWS | UK | MI6 payouts over secret LSD tests
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I tried liberty caps mushies last year in october/novemberish. Started off on a low amount about 25 then ate another 15 about 1-2 hours into it. It was pretty fun… no crazying visuals happened… lots of things warping in size.. the floor felt wavey and a bit squishy… and lots and lots of laughs Definitely up for doing them again next mushroom season a little bit more this time… and definitely want to sit out doors and do them.
natures little wonders. mushrooms can swing one way or another. Sometimes they are beautiful experiances and occasionally evil ones. Caution must be used when dealing with any substance. hehehe im so stoned …. sorry if im lecturing too much. ahh.. ;peace
depends on mushroom and dose.
I love liberty cap shrooms, well i used to pick shit loads in the hills of yorkshire and make loads of brew. Spent soo long wasted and loved it all! :bounce_fl
My best mates girl goes picking with her dad in wales every year… apparantly she has a wicked secret place shes goes… (obviously I’m not gonna say :D) and brought upto manchester about 600 last year. I only tried them the once cause I was a right pussy at first. Then she ran out cause she sold a load as well :yawn:
I have a couple of good spots to go picking in yorkshire and a pub that does B&B right next to the fields, I do need to find of some places in wales for the next season though! 😉
I never done Mushies before. How do you know which ones are good for trippin??!!!??!! :hopeless:
Just dont try the white ones from Tesco’s, they dont really work! :laugh_at:
Nah your best getting someone who knows what they are doing to show you. raaa
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someone who really knows what they are talking about there are a lot of very similar kinds of mushrooms that even experienced pickers mistake for liberty caps and that will give you a very nasty stomach ache… mix that with some actual shrooms and you’re in for a bad time
or get a decent book from the library on wild mushroom identification
someone who really knows what they are talking about there are a lot of very similar kinds of mushrooms that even experienced pickers mistake for liberty caps and that will give you a very nasty stomach ache… mix that with some actual shrooms and you’re in for a bad time
or get a decent book from the library on wild mushroom identification
I had stomach cramps the first time I had liberty caps maybe some of them weren’t shrooms :crazy:
i learnt to pick from sight from my brothers knowledge of mushrooms many years ago …
there are three types of mushrooms available in British fields all resembling the actual Liberty Cap.
they are listed as ”poisonous” in most books on british mushrooms, the two which are not the actual LC will give you some discomfort but nothing worse.
ive been picking mushrooms for years with brothers and friends and i have eaten a lot of mushrooms which are not listed as hallunicogens (some through accidents some more curiosity) … if im honest they lie to stop you experimenting!
my ony advice is pick nothing which grows off wood and is white … trust me
season september to december depending on rain and frost . they still grow after mild frosts. have picked in december few times .:love:
Shrooms and acid can be good or bad experiences… shrooms give more of a sluggish high l think! Well, the Mexican ones did for me…
that picture is amazing :weee:
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