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  • In my new job I have to cart around 1/4 -1/2 ton trollies for ten hours a day … my back is like a f’in rock atm lol …

    @DeezNuts 538721 wrote:

    You’ll need to mix up the exercises you do anyway, I like to change a few every 4-6 weeks so it stays fun but also so my body doesn’t adapt to a specific exercise.

    Yup, my chest is on steroids I swear but my triceps are lacking and never grow it really pisses me off. Gotta look it in the bigger picture though, bodybuilding is a marathon not a sprint, I know i’ll eventually get where I want to be. Oh, if you are wanting to track your progress better you’re probably better off taking pictures rather then doing it in the mirror as it is much easier to tell and you can put them side by side. I do it every month or so and its actually amazing to see how much you’ve changed over say 3 months.

    Yeah good point man, I do change exercises every now and then too, but probably should do it in weeks like that.

    Yeah man, I track by mirror and weight, I used to take pics but lost my phone and just couldn’t be bothered after that, annoying because I put on like 7KG since I started too

    @DeezNuts 538641 wrote:

    Working out more doesn’t equal better gains.

    The more you work a muscle, more tone you get. Fact.

    Yes, you do need recovery time, but go Lshak on making yourself a better body. 🙂

    @Lshak 538429 wrote:

    I’m an ectomorph!

    I’m a necromorph. Got too close to the shard and now am a deformed alien killing machine!

    Nah, way back into my martial arts though. Although I love Northern Praying Mantis for it’s artistry and weapons I have decided that Wing Chun is the most practical fighting style for modern street defense so concentrating on that.

    @Chrispydelic 538751 wrote:

    Nah, way back into my martial arts though. Although I love Northern Praying Mantis for it’s artistry and weapons I have decided that Wing Chun is the most practical fighting style for modern street defense so concentrating on that.

    There is a lot to be said for something a little more modern like Krav Maga. Although it really depends on how hard the opposition has trained and studied.

    Krav Maga is pretty simple and quick, ideal for dealing with the untrained thug. Chinese schools, while more effective, tend to be require a lot more practise to get fluent with.

    You get out what you put in. As with any learning.

    @Pat McDonald 538755 wrote:

    There is a lot to be said for something a little more modern like Krav Maga. Although it really depends on how hard the opposition has trained and studied.

    Krav Maga is pretty simple and quick, ideal for dealing with the untrained thug. Chinese schools, while more effective, tend to be require a lot more practise to get fluent with.

    You get out what you put in. As with any learning.

    Krav Maga is quite effective indeed, and doesn’t take a long time to learn in the grand scheme of things.

    @Pat McDonald 538755 wrote:

    There is a lot to be said for something a little more modern like Krav Maga. Although it really depends on how hard the opposition has trained and studied.

    Krav Maga is pretty simple and quick, ideal for dealing with the untrained thug. Chinese schools, while more effective, tend to be require a lot more practise to get fluent with.

    You get out what you put in. As with any learning.

    Krav Maga is good and very effective. I personally prefer Chinese arts and have spent many years cultivating my Qi. I believe due to it’s principles of body geometry and using your opponent’s energy to have them over makes Wing Chun (traditional Foshan Wing Chun, not this Wing Tsun rubbish) good for someone shorter like me (I’m only 5’7″) I can get in super close which confuses the most highly trained of opponents, it has really good defense against kicks (youtube wing chun vs) and due to it’s ballistic style it finishes enemies fast to help you deal with multiple opponents. It does take MANY years to perfect, as you said. We did the three main blocks (tan sau, fuk sau and bong sau) and the first form (Siu Lim Tau) for two years alone before ever graduating to any Chi Sau (sticking hands) or any actual sparring.

    Each to his own though. The study of any martial arts is good and nowadays it pays to be able to take care of yourself.

    Do you study Krav Maga then Pat?

    @DaftFader 538729 wrote:

    In my new job I have to cart around 1/4 -1/2 ton trollies for ten hours a day … my back is like a f’in rock atm lol …

    Lol mate, get a belt that weight lifters use JUST incase, your backs solid but you don’t wanna twist something and injure your back, will give you extra support and push with more ease.

    @Chrispydelic 538751 wrote:

    I’m a necromorph. Got too close to the shard and now am a deformed alien killing machine!

    Nah, way back into my martial arts though. Although I love Northern Praying Mantis for it’s artistry and weapons I have decided that Wing Chun is the most practical fighting style for modern street defense so concentrating on that.

    Yeah wing chub is good, Bruce lee did that right? I like muay Thai, aggressive fighting style, and its training is force on force, I don’t fight but I just like the martial art

    Yes, Bruce Lee trained with grand master Ip Man, who is the Grandmaster of the Foshan style of Wing Chun. He used it as a basis for his style of Jeet Kune Do.

    Muay Thai is a very impressive and aggressive fighting style. Are you a martial artist Lshak?

    @Pat McDonald 538750 wrote:

    The more you work a muscle, more tone you get. Fact.

    Yes, you do need recovery time, but go Lshak on making yourself a better body. 🙂

    That is definitely not a fact. That is definitely incorrect.

    You cannot tone a muscle. All you can do is make them get bigger, or lose weight so they appear more defined as there is less fat covering them. There is no such thing as toning.

    @Chrispydelic 538762 wrote:

    Krav Maga is good and very effective. I personally prefer Chinese arts and have spent many years cultivating my Qi. I believe due to it’s principles of body geometry and using your opponent’s energy to have them over makes Wing Chun (traditional Foshan Wing Chun, not this Wing Tsun rubbish) good for someone shorter like me (I’m only 5’7″) I can get in super close which confuses the most highly trained of opponents, it has really good defense against kicks (youtube wing chun vs) and due to it’s ballistic style it finishes enemies fast to help you deal with multiple opponents. It does take MANY years to perfect, as you said. We did the three main blocks (tan sau, fuk sau and bong sau) and the first form (Siu Lim Tau) for two years alone before ever graduating to any Chi Sau (sticking hands) or any actual sparring.

    Each to his own though. The study of any martial arts is good and nowadays it pays to be able to take care of yourself.

    Do you study Krav Maga then Pat?

    I’m an avid Wing Chun enthusiast, it’s been too long since I’ve trained though. I can’t find anywhere to get lessons when I have spare time, so might have to go privet on Saturdays, but I have badminton then .. meh.

    (my avatar actually says “Wing Chun Wing Chun” in Chinese :wink:)

    There’s so much bullshit out there with Wing Chun though, most schools don’t even do full contact practicing (even karate does this, and whilst having to complete your next belt at higher levels!). Fair enough Wing Chun is brutal is done to it’s full extent, but a lot of what is taught is “tea room” kung fu.

    I’ve had experience in learning 3 different versions of Wing Chun, and the only one that I’ve tried that seams to really be geared towards fighting is from the Duncan Leung Lineage. There’s also a non Ip Man lineage that seams like it’s got a lot of merit, but my teacher was more interested in teaching me kyusho jitsu (what’s fucking lethal given the chance to use any of the moves in a fight!)

    @Chrispydelic 538849 wrote:

    Yes, Bruce Lee trained with grand master Ip Man, who is the Grandmaster of the Foshan style of Wing Chun. He used it as a basis for his style of Jeet Kune Do.

    Muay Thai is a very impressive and aggressive fighting style. Are you a martial artist Lshak?

    I have done boxing and Muay Thai in the past, soon I’d like to get back into Muay Thai and some sort of mma ground and pound style also, Brazilian jiu jitzu is also a pretty amazing fighting style

    @Chrispydelic 538849 wrote:

    Yes, Bruce Lee trained with grand master Ip Man, who is the Grandmaster of the Foshan style of Wing Chun. He used it as a basis for his style of Jeet Kune Do.

    Muay Thai is a very impressive and aggressive fighting style. Are you a martial artist Lshak?

    Ip Man wasn’t the only Grand master, just he got made famous by Bruce Lee. There were many highly skilled practitioners before and after him that had nothing to do with him per se. It’s just his fame that sets him apart really.

    HGH are also good for bodybuilding because they promote an increase in muscle mass and boost metabolism.

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