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    ‘Subutex (buprenorphine hydrochloride) and Suboxone tablets (buprenorphine hydrochloride and naloxone hydrochloride) is approved for the treatment of opiate dependence. Subutex and Suboxone treat opiate addiction by preventing symptoms of withdrawal from heroin and other opiates.’

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    TBH, i’d be surprised if there was any regularly available on the internet… it is very difficult to get it prescribed in the UK, and prescriptions are often stopped immediately if a clean urine/blood sample cannot be produced.

    In France, however, you can go to a GP in any town with a reasonable number of heroin users and just ask for a scrip. It costs about £6 to see doc and under £1 per fairly large pill.

    most opiate replacements that are sold on the black market move between addicts that know each other…they need money NOW, waiting for paypal (or even having a bank card) is not an option, so internet sales are unlikely. This is a carefully controlled drug. Shame that wasn’t the case with Shipman’s medicine cabinet:(

    Go to a GP in France and get a scrip for Subutex but how easy is that?

    Do you have to register with the GP or can you just walk in off the street so to speak? Is there a waiting list?

    – (Iam desperate and the waiting list here is 6-8 weeks+)

    all GPs in France are private… that means you can just walk in… but you have to pay the doc for his time and pay for the ‘scrip and pay for each individual tablet (about 2 euros each for subutex i believe)

    this doesn’t happen in every town or city… so you need to choose a town with a significant heroin problem… try Beziers? Marseille?

    and a lot of doctors might still block you… so choose one who is likely to have a high number of herion addicts visiting their surgery and you’ll stand a better chnace of getting the scrip you want

    Subutex still ain’t a wonder cure, but it’s effects offer the best relief from withdrawl that I’ve heard of

    and good luck

    In France 8mg of subutex or buprenorphine costs only 3 or 4 EUROS on the street…

    deep wrote:
    does anyone know where can I buy subutex pills online?

    No dont know were you can get um on line, but why not try your docter im on subutex and at first couldnt get anyone to prescribe but if you keep on to um and show um you do want to get clean then they will help. its worth a try, why do you want um on line?

    Unregistered wrote:
    No dont know were you can get um on line, but why not try your docter im on subutex and at first couldnt get anyone to prescribe but if you keep on to um and show um you do want to get clean then they will help. its worth a try, why do you want um on line?

    good effort mate… stick with it and good luck

    i can see why people try other routes of getting sub tho… in lots of parts of the country there’s a long waiting list and as I’m sure you know, sickness gets worse if left untreated

    deep wrote:
    Oi,
    does anyone know where can I buy subutex pills online?
    hello man.. have you found somwhere to by subutex online. or if you have a lot you mabe can send me as many you can.. greetings from a subutex addict in sweden.. peace and rave on
    Unregistered wrote:
    in france it cost for 8MG of subutex or buprenorphine 3 or 4 EUROS in the street only…

    hello. can´t you buy an 100 subutex and send it to sweden/ thanks

    I haven’t found it anywhere online.This thing about buying it in France is possible.I even searched in Lisboa for it,but no use without prescription.I’m from Montenegro,Yugoslavia,and here that medicine isn’t approved by our authorities.So if any one is in position to buy in France just let me know.

    PLEASE BE CAREFUL – all of you.

    you are discussing on an open messageboard potentially importing a controlled substance across national borders. you can’t easily buy it online because people can get nicked (or you’d just hand over some euros to get a nasty letter from the customs authorities).

    whilst its not as controlled as methadone (for instance in the UK it is class C like cannabis) penalties vary, and bringing stuff across borders is nearly always treated more seriously than even simple posession in one country.

    cops and customs authorities may not believe you are “just trying to get off heroin” – to them you are strill a drug trafficking gang.

    this board, like all message boards is open to all. cops also read here as well as ravers and drug users.

    In some countries, the security forces also routinely any monitor net traffic which may relate to the dealing of drugs. This can be a lot easier than you think, in most EU countries the infrastructure for internet connections is still provided by the national telephone companies with strong links and alliegances to government.

    I get the impression you are all after subutex to get well and have a better life and can understand why there is some desperation here, but please do not incriminate yourselves and get into further trouble!

    Incidentally I found this whilst researching the substance – I don’t understand much Swedish but it may be of use to the Swedish poster.

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    Måndag 28 juni 2004, 8.00

    Subutex finns på svarta marknaden

    Subutex är en modern variant av Metadon, som sedan tidigare används för att – strängt kontrollerat – behandla heroinmissbrukare. Nu sprids Subutex på den svarta marknaden i Göteborg. Många socialt fungerande personer står just nu i kö för att avgiftas från det heroinliknande läkemedlet. Det här är något vi länge varnat för, säger Karina Stein, vårdenhetschef för avgiftningsavdelning 605 och för metadonprogrammet i Göteborg. För Erik Blomstrand, stf chef för narkotikaroteln, kom det som en nyhet att det finns folk som går direkt på subutexmissbruk utan att först missbruka heroin. (Källa: Göteborgspostens nätupplaga, söndag 040627, ©Netdoktor.se)

    Mer om information om hälsa från NetDoktor.se

    as for deep, can you not register with a doctor in PT to get the prescription? Perhaps if more people start moving around EU for better or more appropriate treatment, then finally the health ministries may realise that some treatments should be harmonised! We are after all the same human beings whatever nation we are in.

    Personally I think all EU-nations should instruct their health authorities to prescribe subutex as required, but unfortunately the politicians don’t have courage to take this step 🙁

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    a word of warning as an agonist subutex willkick off any opiates present from your neuro-receptors precipatingimmediate withdrawel a fucking killer cluck, make sure you are clucking before you take it to ensure you only get the positive effects, its a bout 50% of a heroin high and leaves you mentall/emotionally clear which for anyone using meth or gear to smother emotional stuff may not be fun.

    cliffchuff wrote:
    a word of warning as an agonist subutex willkick off any opiates present from your neuro-receptors precipatingimmediate withdrawel a fucking killer cluck

    source for that please?

    most smack addicts i know use both subutex and H in the same day… subutex to help them through a long night, and H as per usual in the day

    I’m a drug worker and work with people prescribed subutex. and have had training in its use.

    it is a partial agonist, if their are opiates in your system it will kick them off, sounds like your friends are already clucking mildly (the herion has stopped working) as heroin only stays active for a short time (up to 12 hours) herion taken at night will be out of the system by morning.
    when titrating people we ask them not to use heroin for 12 hours prior.

    if they try the same pattern ofuse with a dose of methadone (higher doses taking longer to loose effectiveness) they will get a fucking nasty surprise.

    all this is of course dose dependant. with 16 ml of subutex giving about 90-95% blockage of other opoids and 8ml giving 50-65% lower doses have lower blocking effects this is why when it is first prescribed you start on 2 ml and work up to the required dose over a few days.

    as a partial agonist subutex will stop other opiods working and make anyonetaking them sick(physically) again only if higher doses are used lower amounts will allow the corresponding amount of high by not covering all the opoid receptors in the brain.

    methadone is a full agonist but gives no high, subutex gives a partial high, the company reps say 50% but they are selling the suff innit because of this it should also be 50% easier to come off or withdraw from…

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