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  • it affect you emotionally as you start to clean up after drug abuse?

    would anyone like to share their experiences on this? [ i feel it may be of help to others:wink:]

    Temporarily, full on or domestic after a party?

    whatever you wish you had known before you tried the drug in question:groucho: about the comedown / cleanup period

    so all or just one category as the mood takes you:wink:

    /me says that was no help

    sorry

    That using tinkers like sugar in your morning coffee every morning will increase your business abilities many fold but will leave you unable to sleep without the tv on (had to be light and sound) at nights otherwise the mother of all nightmares would leave you shaking in a cold sweat clinging to a base ball bat…

    mudstomper wrote:
    That using tinkers like sugar in your morning coffee every morning will increase your business abilities many fold but will leave you unable to sleep without the tv on (had to be light and sound) at nights otherwise the mother of all nightmares would leave you shaking in a cold sweat clinging to a base ball bat…

    how long did it last after you stopped taking it?
    and did these effects get worse over time [as it was taken for longer]?

    mudstomper wrote:
    That using tinkers like sugar in your morning coffee every morning will increase your business abilities many fold but will leave you unable to sleep without the tv on (had to be light and sound) at nights otherwise the mother of all nightmares would leave you shaking in a cold sweat clinging to a base ball bat…

    what are “tinkers?” probably something I’m familiar with but under a different name … having originally come from SE England where street names are often different.

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    Ok, it was a while back but as far as worse as it went along it’s difficult to say, we went through quite a few different badges and even the regulars varied batch to batch, but I wound up having to use alcohol and hash increasingly to get any sleep. Coz of circumstance it probably was about 18 months before I cut down to weekend use, I was lucky enough to have a good supply of greenery at the time and a loving partner, the lucid nightmares got less fairly rapidly and when they did kick in there was an ear and and cuddle to help out (best cure in the world for most things!!) Unfortunatly, the alcohol habit had remained which meant other attendent problems. I never felt any kind of withdrawal apart from the shift in lifestyle and since, if sticking bucket loads would interfere with life, I won’t do it (had a couple of pink kanga’s sat in my cupboard for a fortnight before bothering with them). One final thing, this wasn’t costing me anything at the time, the cola habit later down the line, different matter….

    Tinkers = little fellas, XTC

    in my heavier raving days I found that sometimes getting to sleep can be hard and have had minor health problems (colds, viruses) because of caning my body too much – but I’ve not had any major physical or mental health problems…

    the only serious nightmares I got after raving and drugs were following a number of raves I went to in London where incidents of violence happened.

    I tended to do amphet more than pills though as I did find the emotional effect of pills worse; I just did not want to face the “normal” life during the week; thought it was so tedious compared to the weekend. Speed seemed not to cause this effect with me.

    Auch wenn du am Abgrund stehst, und gar nichts mehr verstehst,
    wachen Engel über dich, halten dich im Licht und lassen dich nie fallen.

    Did do quite a lot of phet at the same time but again, not too much of a problem there just the usual pleadings to let me sleep when I wanted off the roundabout 😉

    yeah loads of tinkers leads to full on nightmares after a bit

    or rather, after a period of bashing them, when you stop, mad bad dreams kick your head in

    My emotions were completely dulled whilst in the throws of opiate addiction. I wasn’t able to have a loving relationship because love is an emotion. Now on subutex my emotions seem to be flooding back. Eg; watching those terrible war crimes brings me to floods of tears. A good cry in private helps me get through this very difficult time. I am inately an emotional person anyway so I can imagine a fair amount of saline escaping through my eyes during these coming weeks of detox. OMG I’m off again:cry:
    I do understand that I need to detox on a taper programme from subutex rather sooner than later, whilst on the other hand I know that this can’t be done overnight. Confused????????
    I’m not:wink:

    Years ago i used to go out several nites a week and take pills all the time.. i never noticed the affect it was havin on me.. my sister tried to tell me i was losing weight an god knows i can’t afford to do that.. but i couldnt see it.. it wasn’t until i saw pics of me in a club that i realised she was right.. my sis doesn’t take anything so she see’s it all from sober eyes (well kinda lol she still drinks hehe) but she is allergic to so many things she sensibly doesn’t touch anything.. hehe

    When i moved back to Scotland from Ireland i found some new mates still went partying but not as much and soon after i got diagnosed with a rare blood disorder that made me really tired all the time an more susceptable to infection but me being me i didn’t want to let that stop me having fun.. I could go out take base, pills etc and still crash out coz my body needed the rest then i’d get up an start where i left off.. it would take me days to recover from the weekends partying and a few times in work i passed out behind the reception desk of the hotel i was working in due to lack of sleep.. Not a good plan..

    It wasn’t until earlier this year i did more research into my condition and decided to be a bit more sensible.. for nearly 3 yrs i still partied as hard as i could and wasn’t doing myself any good at all.. I was gettin sick all the time a ended up really ill due to my blood disorder again

    Now i don’t go out nearly as much and when i do i’m a lot more sensible in how much i take and what i take.. 3 weeks ago was the 1st time since my b’day that i had touched pills it still probably took me longer to recover than most people but i took 5-htp and that also helped me eat.. but i didn’t go mad like i always used to.. maybe i’m getting old and have seen too many mates go down hill who knows.. but i’m not all that bothered anymore about going out an gettin trashed..
    I get as big a buzz from playin live to a crowd full of nutters bouncing around to my tunes..

    The worst comedown i had i was in Ireland sitting on my couch rocking myself crying when my mum turned up, i didnt’ hear the car pull in or her walk into the house.. i was getting dizzy spells all the time an cryin at the stupidist things on TV

    Now i’ll do things in moderation.. i have to coz my blood disorder won’t let me do anymore than that an unless i wanna see myself back in hospital i need to stick to being the way i am now..

    The Acidfairy has had a wake up call that going out with your mates an getting trashed at a party ain’t the be all an end all anymore.. u can have as much fun without them if not more sometimes.. and not have the next few days feeling knackered an run down..

    I’ll probably not stop taking things all together but i’ll take them only when its something i wanna do not coz all my mates are doing it an i don’t wanna be the only “straight” one outta us…

    Essay over.. lol

    Essay read, lol. By my understanding of this post you seem to realize that you can have as much fun with or without getting hammered. All in all you seem cognizant of the fact that your ‘blood disorder’ is a warning sign to take it a tad easier and by doing this I’m sure you’ll enjoy the ‘treats’ even more:wink:
    :love: :love:

    Yup totally man.. apologies for the essay it prob ain’t that easy to digest as i just typed an waffled..

    When i do go out an take something i enjoy it more as well coz my body has time to recover and it means my tollerance levels aren’t as high as they used to be that i don’t need to take as much to enjoy masel either 😉

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